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Anybody have recommendations for similar projects written in Python? Curious to know the motivations for choosing Java in this case.

by tcdent 2y ago

creaktive 2y ago
Salesforce is customized in something called Apex, which is a dialect of Java. Would make migration/integration more convenient
- vips7L 2y ago
  Its like Java 5 mashed with some C# and then they've added their own syntax changes on top for custom salesforce things.
fire_lake 2y ago
Python is significantly more resource heavy than Java. This is not a notebook or quick script. What would Python offer here?
- evantbyrne 2y ago
  Objectively, very little probably. Non-java shops tend to avoid it because java codebases have a reputation for being relatively complicated. Java is a great language though and it may very well be the best cultural fit for the type of org that _actually likes_ salesforce. They also seem to be publishing a docker image, so it shouldn't be difficult for non-java orgs to integrate.
- OutOfHere 2y ago
  Python is more resource heavy than Java for CPU, but not for memory. I am pretty sure that Java is more resource heavy for memory. Also, Java programmers have the habit of using excessive abstractions that don't solve real problems.
bfmalky 2y ago
I would guess java was chosen for its high quality libraries, efficient runtime and its static typing, which enables easy and safe refactoring.
- mgl 2y ago
  Exactly this. We find modern Java to be ubiquitous, fast, and (still) super popular in enterprise environments.
likeafox 2y ago
[Odoo is Python based](https://github.com/odoo/odoo https://github.com/odoo/odoo) and the 'core' modules are open - Not providing any endorsement of the software nor can I say how the Odoo CRM/CMS compares to Salesforce. I've tried migrating a non Salesforce business to Odoo twice and haven't had success yet.
bnchrch 2y ago
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jrklabs_com 2y ago
Yes, I haven't used this myself yet but I have been keeping my eye on this project for a while now, https://erpnext.com/ https://erpnext.com/ The Frappe framework that is the foundation of ERP Next can be used to extend the ERP platform or build standalone apps.
greenchair 2y ago
probably because java owns the enterprise space.
drondin 2y ago
I can recommend https://github.com/frappe/frappe https://github.com/frappe/frappe as a general engine, https://github.com/frappe/erpnext https://github.com/frappe/erpnext is a full blown CRM/ERP built on top of it

Anybody have recommendations for similar projects written in Python? Curious to know the motivations for choosing Java in this case.

by tcdent 2y ago

Anybody have recommendations for similar projects written in Python? Curious to know the motivations for choosing Java in this case.

creaktive 2y ago

Salesforce is customized in something called Apex, which is a dialect of Java. Would make migration/integration more convenient

vips7L 2y ago
Its like Java 5 mashed with some C# and then they've added their own syntax changes on top for custom salesforce things.

fire_lake 2y ago

Python is significantly more resource heavy than Java. This is not a notebook or quick script. What would Python offer here?

evantbyrne 2y ago
Objectively, very little probably. Non-java shops tend to avoid it because java codebases have a reputation for being relatively complicated. Java is a great language though and it may very well be the best cultural fit for the type of org that _actually likes_ salesforce. They also seem to be publishing a docker image, so it shouldn't be difficult for non-java orgs to integrate.
OutOfHere 2y ago
Python is more resource heavy than Java for CPU, but not for memory. I am pretty sure that Java is more resource heavy for memory. Also, Java programmers have the habit of using excessive abstractions that don't solve real problems.

bfmalky 2y ago

I would guess java was chosen for its high quality libraries, efficient runtime and its static typing, which enables easy and safe refactoring.

mgl 2y ago
Exactly this. We find modern Java to be ubiquitous, fast, and (still) super popular in enterprise environments.

likeafox 2y ago

[Odoo is Python based](https://github.com/odoo/odoo https://github.com/odoo/odoo) and the 'core' modules are open - Not providing any endorsement of the software nor can I say how the Odoo CRM/CMS compares to Salesforce. I've tried migrating a non Salesforce business to Odoo twice and haven't had success yet.

bnchrch 2y ago

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jrklabs_com 2y ago

Yes, I haven't used this myself yet but I have been keeping my eye on this project for a while now, https://erpnext.com/ https://erpnext.com/ The Frappe framework that is the foundation of ERP Next can be used to extend the ERP platform or build standalone apps.

greenchair 2y ago

probably because java owns the enterprise space.

drondin 2y ago

I can recommend https://github.com/frappe/frappe https://github.com/frappe/frappe as a general engine, https://github.com/frappe/erpnext https://github.com/frappe/erpnext is a full blown CRM/ERP built on top of it