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There are number of states in the US where this isn’t allowed, and the latch that holds the fill trigger open has been removed from the handle. Sure you can wal

by orev 2y ago

There are number of states in the US where this isn’t allowed, and the latch that holds the fill trigger open has been removed from the handle. Sure you can walk away, but the tank won’t keep filling.

qingcharles 2y ago
I'm pretty sure the USA is the only country I've found these latches in, too.
- CamperBob2 2y ago
  Why do you suppose that might be? Difficulty: if you think the latches are a bad idea, back up your point with actual statistics.
  - orev 2y ago
    It’s not hard to extrapolate that it’s a safety feature in case the auto-shutoff valve malfunctions and, when the tank is full, you’d end up with a dangerous and damaging fuel spill if someone isn’t standing there monitoring it. If you can’t walk away, the risk of this goes down a lot. Also, people often start the pump and get back into the car while it fills. When it’s full, they get out of the vehicle which generates static electricity (often in winter months where it’s dry and wool or other clothing increases this) and has the risk of discharging on the handle, sparking a fire.
    - CamperBob2 2y ago
      When it’s full, they get out of the vehicle which generates static electricity (often in winter months where it’s dry and wool or other clothing increases this) and has the risk of discharging on the handle, sparking a fire. An excellent example of a point with no actual statistics behind it.
  - ghaff 2y ago
    I don't think they're a bad idea and I appreciate them on a cold morning. But I have had them not shut off on a a couple of occasions and it's certainly a good idea to keep your eye on them. They're not failsafe.
CamperBob2 2y ago
There are other states where you're not even allowed to pump your own gas at all for "safety." (Two, although I understand that Oregon has walked it most of the way back.) Like prohibitions against unattended filling, these law have no statistical basis.
- dude187 2y ago
  Well the reality is that sometimes the pumps don't shut off. I've seen it happen. It's not a statistics thing as much as just simply reality
  - 1123581321 2y ago
    That isn't reality. It effectively never happens. Maybe once in your lifetime might see it happen to someone else, if you frequent stations with old pumps.
- sokoloff 2y ago
  > not even allowed to pump your own gas at all for "safety." It's a jobs program, not a safety program.

by orev 2y ago

qingcharles 2y ago

I'm pretty sure the USA is the only country I've found these latches in, too.

CamperBob2 2y ago
Why do you suppose that might be? Difficulty: if you think the latches are a bad idea, back up your point with actual statistics.
- orev 2y ago
  It’s not hard to extrapolate that it’s a safety feature in case the auto-shutoff valve malfunctions and, when the tank is full, you’d end up with a dangerous and damaging fuel spill if someone isn’t standing there monitoring it. If you can’t walk away, the risk of this goes down a lot. Also, people often start the pump and get back into the car while it fills. When it’s full, they get out of the vehicle which generates static electricity (often in winter months where it’s dry and wool or other clothing increases this) and has the risk of discharging on the handle, sparking a fire.
  - CamperBob2 2y ago
    When it’s full, they get out of the vehicle which generates static electricity (often in winter months where it’s dry and wool or other clothing increases this) and has the risk of discharging on the handle, sparking a fire. An excellent example of a point with no actual statistics behind it.
- ghaff 2y ago
  I don't think they're a bad idea and I appreciate them on a cold morning. But I have had them not shut off on a a couple of occasions and it's certainly a good idea to keep your eye on them. They're not failsafe.

CamperBob2 2y ago

There are other states where you're not even allowed to pump your own gas at all for "safety." (Two, although I understand that Oregon has walked it most of the way back.) Like prohibitions against unattended filling, these law have no statistical basis.

dude187 2y ago
Well the reality is that sometimes the pumps don't shut off. I've seen it happen. It's not a statistics thing as much as just simply reality
- 1123581321 2y ago
  That isn't reality. It effectively never happens. Maybe once in your lifetime might see it happen to someone else, if you frequent stations with old pumps.
sokoloff 2y ago
> not even allowed to pump your own gas at all for "safety." It's a jobs program, not a safety program.