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It’s not really cheap in time or money (hard drives cost money, if you want a good experience the server needs to be on basically all the time which costs meani

It’s not really cheap in time or money (hard drives cost money, if you want a good experience the server needs to be on basically all the time which costs meaningful amounts in energy use) but enough things can’t be had any other way that if I want them I’m gonna be doing that regardless… may as well get everything high-quality and in one interface, then. I would much, much rather just pay some reasonable amount to achieve similar results, but you literally can’t.

tyingq 2y ago
Maybe it wouldn't please some, but 1080p is good enough for me, and so a €14/month server from a seedbox provider with a 3TB drive is terrific. It has one click installers for Plex and all the various pirate tools. It's a little slow if transcoding, but again, good enough.
- vundercind 2y ago
  I know there are more works out of the box piracy solutions—I meant that you can’t simply pay for a non-piracy “everything, including these 70 things that can’t actually be purchased at any price right now, in one streaming interface and high-quality”. It’s not an option. I see now that the way I phrased that was unclear.
  - tyingq 2y ago
    Ah, yes..I thought you were saying a high-end piracy setup is expensive[1], and it is. So I was trying to say a "good enough" one is cheap. [1] Though probably never as expensive as the sum of all the legal à la carte services for anything you might want to see.
ClumsyPilot 2y ago
A reasonable NAS these days is ~£400, with disk. A Netflix subscription is £17. Pays for itself in two years if you have no other services
- nomel 2y ago
  The VPN cost to keep from getting sued should be included in that price.
  - tjpnz 2y ago
    Is that even a risk?
    - jasomill 2y ago
      Maybe. A more significant risk is being hassled or throttled by an ISP if (and essentially only if) you're doing (not necessarily illegal[1]) P2P file transfers on their network. At least given the lack of alternative ISP options in my area, I'd rather pay Mullvad €5/month than assume this risk. [1] https://i.redd.it/jzf5jegdyb171.png https://i.redd.it/jzf5jegdyb171.png
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jasomill 2y ago
Or dispense with the hard drives and server, rip or download immediately before watching, and delete immediately afterwards. Think of it as a video store with one hour delivery. For backups, assume that if it's readily available via physical media or piracy, it's easily replaced, archiving anything obscure or important by the usual means (hard drive, cloud, tape). WRT your last point: given that essentially all Blu-ray and streaming releases are immediately and widely pirated anyway, why are official DRM-free downloads of at least older back catalog titles still not a thing? Perhaps in conjunction with a streaming service with a rotating selection that offers discounts to subscribers on currently-streaming titles, à la Game Pass?

tyingq 2y ago

Maybe it wouldn't please some, but 1080p is good enough for me, and so a €14/month server from a seedbox provider with a 3TB drive is terrific. It has one click installers for Plex and all the various pirate tools. It's a little slow if transcoding, but again, good enough.

vundercind 2y ago
I know there are more works out of the box piracy solutions—I meant that you can’t simply pay for a non-piracy “everything, including these 70 things that can’t actually be purchased at any price right now, in one streaming interface and high-quality”. It’s not an option. I see now that the way I phrased that was unclear.
- tyingq 2y ago
  Ah, yes..I thought you were saying a high-end piracy setup is expensive[1], and it is. So I was trying to say a "good enough" one is cheap. [1] Though probably never as expensive as the sum of all the legal à la carte services for anything you might want to see.

ClumsyPilot 2y ago

A reasonable NAS these days is ~£400, with disk. A Netflix subscription is £17. Pays for itself in two years if you have no other services

nomel 2y ago
The VPN cost to keep from getting sued should be included in that price.
- tjpnz 2y ago
  Is that even a risk?
  - jasomill 2y ago
    Maybe. A more significant risk is being hassled or throttled by an ISP if (and essentially only if) you're doing (not necessarily illegal[1]) P2P file transfers on their network. At least given the lack of alternative ISP options in my area, I'd rather pay Mullvad €5/month than assume this risk. [1] https://i.redd.it/jzf5jegdyb171.png https://i.redd.it/jzf5jegdyb171.png

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jasomill 2y ago

Or dispense with the hard drives and server, rip or download immediately before watching, and delete immediately afterwards. Think of it as a video store with one hour delivery. For backups, assume that if it's readily available via physical media or piracy, it's easily replaced, archiving anything obscure or important by the usual means (hard drive, cloud, tape). WRT your last point: given that essentially all Blu-ray and streaming releases are immediately and widely pirated anyway, why are official DRM-free downloads of at least older back catalog titles still not a thing? Perhaps in conjunction with a streaming service with a rotating selection that offers discounts to subscribers on currently-streaming titles, à la Game Pass?