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Personally I don’t think Gosling is relevant to Java in 2024. It’s completely different from when he was involved.

• js8 2y ago
  I downvoted you; whether Gosling is relevant or not doesn't address the core argument that Java is hard to use without IDE.
  • vips7L 2y ago
    It’s not hard. I’ve done it in neovim and vscode. Evoking Gosling as if his opinion matters more when he isn’t involved in Java made my comment relevant.