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>> using drugs to control weight is the wrong approach. This does not lead to a healthier population at all. > Based on what data? It sure looks like it result

>> using drugs to control weight is the wrong approach. This does not lead to a healthier population at all. > Based on what data? It sure looks like it results in a healthier population. You are kidding, right? Please. Pretty please. With sugar on top. Go watch the two videos I posted and then come back and see just how ridiculous your answer is. If you think taking a pill and losing weight is equivalent to getting healthy, well, all I can suggest is: Please stop and go learn something, because you truly do not understand what you are talking about.

kadoban 2y ago
Obesity is awful for you. This reduces obesity, substantially. It has serious risks and side effects, but certainly appears to be nowhere _near_ as bad as its benefits.
- robomartin 2y ago
  > appears to be nowhere _near_ as bad as its benefits There is no long term data to be able to make that kind of an assertion. The data so far point to the risks as well as the need to effectively be on it for life: From [0]: <start quote> The Potential Impact of Ozempic on the Body There are some negative implications of Ozempic, particularly its correlation with various health factors, including, thyroid cancer, pancreatitis, and pancreatic cancer, hypoglycemia risks, acute kidney injury occurrences, gallbladder events, gastrointestinal disturbances, and cardiovascular effects. <end quote> What is clear is that embarking on a treatment that has such consequences, including the need to take this drug for life because: <start quote> "What hasn't been even described or reported in the peer-reviewed medical literature is what does maintenance on these medications look like,"..."if you get to your goal weight, and you completely stop these medications, the vast majority, not all, but the vast majority of people will regain the weight that's lost." <end quote> Which is precisely what I have been saying: The root causes are not addressed by a drug at all. It's a quick imaginary solution that is likely to come back in ten to twenty years and overload the medical system with unimaginable problems. This is NOT how you build a healthy society, at all. [0] https://vial.com/blog/articles/what-clinical-research-says-about-the-long-term-safety-of-ozempic/ https://vial.com/blog/articles/what-clinical-research-says-a...

kadoban 2y ago

Obesity is awful for you. This reduces obesity, substantially. It has serious risks and side effects, but certainly appears to be nowhere _near_ as bad as its benefits.

robomartin 2y ago
> appears to be nowhere _near_ as bad as its benefits There is no long term data to be able to make that kind of an assertion. The data so far point to the risks as well as the need to effectively be on it for life: From [0]: <start quote> The Potential Impact of Ozempic on the Body There are some negative implications of Ozempic, particularly its correlation with various health factors, including, thyroid cancer, pancreatitis, and pancreatic cancer, hypoglycemia risks, acute kidney injury occurrences, gallbladder events, gastrointestinal disturbances, and cardiovascular effects. <end quote> What is clear is that embarking on a treatment that has such consequences, including the need to take this drug for life because: <start quote> "What hasn't been even described or reported in the peer-reviewed medical literature is what does maintenance on these medications look like,"..."if you get to your goal weight, and you completely stop these medications, the vast majority, not all, but the vast majority of people will regain the weight that's lost." <end quote> Which is precisely what I have been saying: The root causes are not addressed by a drug at all. It's a quick imaginary solution that is likely to come back in ten to twenty years and overload the medical system with unimaginable problems. This is NOT how you build a healthy society, at all. [0] https://vial.com/blog/articles/what-clinical-research-says-about-the-long-term-safety-of-ozempic/ https://vial.com/blog/articles/what-clinical-research-says-a...