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I uploaded 11 years of my Day One Journal data to GPT-4o

34 points by indigodaddy 2y ago

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phito 2y ago
And now OpenAI knows everything about you and your family.
- QRe 2y ago
  Well, at least OpenAI seems like an upfront, honest company full of integrity. Don't see any privacy concerns here. /s
  - luqtas 2y ago
    > upfront, honest company full of integrity they need to! as AI will be the future of parenting, schools, books etc.! ^_^
- sandspar 2y ago
  Permanently
  - simonw 2y ago
    I'm personally confident that OpenAI doesn't permanently "remember" every piece of text it that is fed into it. Unfortunately, because OpenAI are extremely vague about how they use input to their models to influence future training runs I can't distribute my own personal confidence level here to other people.
    - LoganDark 2y ago
      I believe they retain every "conversation" in your account, purely for your convenience (not for training), manually review exchanges that flag their moderation filters, and retain replies that you press the feedback buttons on (like/dislike). The moderation filters are (or at least were back in 2022) activated by the client, which is hilarious.
      - eightysixfour 2y ago
        They have two things: A toggle for using the data for training, with it off it is not used for further training. A temporary chat, which is not used for training and is deleted after 30 days. They could be lying about either, but you either trust their T&Cs or you don’t.
vasco 2y ago
Seems genuine, but it's so weird to expose your personal family matters like this. I always wonder how I'd feel if my parents were bragging about how good they were to me on social media as they would parent me. It feels like it cheapens things because now it's not just about the family, it's also because you want clicks on your profile.
- dinkleberg 2y ago
  As a fairly private person, this seems insane to me. Though this does seem very par for the course on LinkedIn. I'm grateful I didn't grow up in the social media era. I don't think my particular parents would've posted our family's dirty laundry, but it just feels wrong. If you want to discuss these matters to others, why not do it in person (or in direct messages) rather than publicly for the whole world to see?
  - shirro 2y ago
    ML is an interesting technology. AI is a cult. Some people are in really deep.
    - ghaff 2y ago
      Before the current phase there was certainly a radical transparency cult. See “The Circle” which wasn’t as obviously satirical as it probably should have been. But also lifestreaming etc.
      - xwolfi 2y ago
        I don't know if that was as asinine, all-pervasive and exhausting as the AI one. Altman bought millions of dollars of video game cards to make a website that can invent sentences by parsing hundreds of years of human work to guesstimate what passes for expected, and now each time I go to a meeting like "Algo trading, onboarding client X" in my company just yday, a frigging asshole always asks: "And AI, have you thought of AI to trade algorithmically". And the head of algo, a PhD in mathematics, C++ developer, actual money maker, sigh one more time "yes, we're studying what it can do ofc, since it's the future of everything". The asshole asking that question is always the same: optimal level of incompetence, insecure about his position, aggressive with anyone "resisting change" when we try to save him from himself, and gone within 2 years. Sigh, the time we lose, and as I grow older and navigate those hypes, I feel half of humanity is some sort of social scamming parasite. I just am too shy to try and be one myself.
renewiltord 2y ago
Very cool. I hope to represent my mental states in text as well as I can so that, should I die untimely, my children can extract whatever value they can from my serialized brain as they can using AI. Writing it down is step one. I keep as much as possible public so that people other than my children can also benefit. But there's obviously things that are best for my kids. Hopefully they get enough of me that they can query my ghost after my death. Or maybe they won't care. And that's okay too!
simonw 2y ago
I don't understand quite how this works. GPT-4o's context limit is still just 128,000 tokens, but this post talks about "97k hours of transcribed audio". Did this person upload the content to a newly created GPT, and is now running RAG queries against it using the GPT "knowledge" feature? https://help.openai.com/en/articles/8554397-creating-a-gpt https://help.openai.com/en/articles/8554397-creating-a-gpt says "GPTs for paid users are currently powered by GPT-4. GPTs for paid users will switch to use GPT-4o in the next several weeks." but maybe that documentation is out of date? The icon displayed in the screenshots is the default ChatGPT icon though - if it was a GPT I would expect either a custom icon or an isometric box default GPT icon. The text in the screenshots looks to me like it could be generated based on a shorter interactive conversation (providing names and basic notes about family members) that fit in that 128,000 token window, as opposed to being influenced by 97,000 hours of audio.
antegamisou 2y ago
Untreated mental illness.
yuttrim 2y ago
Cool, so now, with just a little clever “prompt engineering” I have access to 11 years of this guys most personal memories?
apantel 2y ago
I would be very intrigued to interact with a GPT-level model that had access to that much of my personal data, but I would never give that kind of data to a company that didn’t have some kind of legally-binding fiduciary-type privacy obligation to me… Which we should probably be pushing for from these companies that have so much of our data.
gaws 2y ago
> 97k Hours of transcribed audio Holy crap.

34 points by indigodaddy 2y ago

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phito 2y ago

And now OpenAI knows everything about you and your family.

QRe 2y ago
Well, at least OpenAI seems like an upfront, honest company full of integrity. Don't see any privacy concerns here. /s
- luqtas 2y ago
  > upfront, honest company full of integrity they need to! as AI will be the future of parenting, schools, books etc.! ^_^
sandspar 2y ago
Permanently
- simonw 2y ago
  I'm personally confident that OpenAI doesn't permanently "remember" every piece of text it that is fed into it. Unfortunately, because OpenAI are extremely vague about how they use input to their models to influence future training runs I can't distribute my own personal confidence level here to other people.
  - LoganDark 2y ago
    I believe they retain every "conversation" in your account, purely for your convenience (not for training), manually review exchanges that flag their moderation filters, and retain replies that you press the feedback buttons on (like/dislike). The moderation filters are (or at least were back in 2022) activated by the client, which is hilarious.
    - eightysixfour 2y ago
      They have two things: A toggle for using the data for training, with it off it is not used for further training. A temporary chat, which is not used for training and is deleted after 30 days. They could be lying about either, but you either trust their T&Cs or you don’t.

vasco 2y ago

Seems genuine, but it's so weird to expose your personal family matters like this. I always wonder how I'd feel if my parents were bragging about how good they were to me on social media as they would parent me. It feels like it cheapens things because now it's not just about the family, it's also because you want clicks on your profile.

dinkleberg 2y ago
As a fairly private person, this seems insane to me. Though this does seem very par for the course on LinkedIn. I'm grateful I didn't grow up in the social media era. I don't think my particular parents would've posted our family's dirty laundry, but it just feels wrong. If you want to discuss these matters to others, why not do it in person (or in direct messages) rather than publicly for the whole world to see?
- shirro 2y ago
  ML is an interesting technology. AI is a cult. Some people are in really deep.
  - ghaff 2y ago
    Before the current phase there was certainly a radical transparency cult. See “The Circle” which wasn’t as obviously satirical as it probably should have been. But also lifestreaming etc.
    - xwolfi 2y ago
      I don't know if that was as asinine, all-pervasive and exhausting as the AI one. Altman bought millions of dollars of video game cards to make a website that can invent sentences by parsing hundreds of years of human work to guesstimate what passes for expected, and now each time I go to a meeting like "Algo trading, onboarding client X" in my company just yday, a frigging asshole always asks: "And AI, have you thought of AI to trade algorithmically". And the head of algo, a PhD in mathematics, C++ developer, actual money maker, sigh one more time "yes, we're studying what it can do ofc, since it's the future of everything". The asshole asking that question is always the same: optimal level of incompetence, insecure about his position, aggressive with anyone "resisting change" when we try to save him from himself, and gone within 2 years. Sigh, the time we lose, and as I grow older and navigate those hypes, I feel half of humanity is some sort of social scamming parasite. I just am too shy to try and be one myself.

renewiltord 2y ago

Very cool. I hope to represent my mental states in text as well as I can so that, should I die untimely, my children can extract whatever value they can from my serialized brain as they can using AI. Writing it down is step one. I keep as much as possible public so that people other than my children can also benefit. But there's obviously things that are best for my kids. Hopefully they get enough of me that they can query my ghost after my death. Or maybe they won't care. And that's okay too!

simonw 2y ago

I don't understand quite how this works. GPT-4o's context limit is still just 128,000 tokens, but this post talks about "97k hours of transcribed audio". Did this person upload the content to a newly created GPT, and is now running RAG queries against it using the GPT "knowledge" feature? https://help.openai.com/en/articles/8554397-creating-a-gpt https://help.openai.com/en/articles/8554397-creating-a-gpt says "GPTs for paid users are currently powered by GPT-4. GPTs for paid users will switch to use GPT-4o in the next several weeks." but maybe that documentation is out of date? The icon displayed in the screenshots is the default ChatGPT icon though - if it was a GPT I would expect either a custom icon or an isometric box default GPT icon. The text in the screenshots looks to me like it could be generated based on a shorter interactive conversation (providing names and basic notes about family members) that fit in that 128,000 token window, as opposed to being influenced by 97,000 hours of audio.

antegamisou 2y ago

Untreated mental illness.

yuttrim 2y ago

Cool, so now, with just a little clever “prompt engineering” I have access to 11 years of this guys most personal memories?

apantel 2y ago

I would be very intrigued to interact with a GPT-level model that had access to that much of my personal data, but I would never give that kind of data to a company that didn’t have some kind of legally-binding fiduciary-type privacy obligation to me… Which we should probably be pushing for from these companies that have so much of our data.

gaws 2y ago

> 97k Hours of transcribed audio Holy crap.