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You dont need to, you can bypass it anyways through win32 function call redirection and a dozen other methods. Antivirus's are trash, they are a mitigation tha

You dont need to, you can bypass it anyways through win32 function call redirection and a dozen other methods. Antivirus's are trash, they are a mitigation that exists when the operating system does not have proper security measures in the first place. This is why Windows must ship with an AV, and everyone else laughs.

justsomehnguy 2y ago
> the operating system does not have proper security measures in the first place > everyone else laughs Meanwhile: So let's install our shiny $UB3RK3WLAPP ! # setenforce 0 # curl http://ub3rk3wlapp.io/install | sudo bash
- devwastaken 2y ago
  Notice the sudo and terminal. You must enter a password in a terminal. In windows you just click twice.
  - chii 2y ago
    how is that any different? you're still allowing arbitrary code to run. Unless you are saying that those who type into the terminal will first |echo the script into a file, verify it, then run?
  - _Microft 2y ago
    > In windows you just click twice. Uh, oh, that means you're working on an admin account. If you are using a normal user account, you will be prompted to enter your admin credentials instead. (You can also force this behaviour on administrator accounts. Search for the registry setting "ConsentPromptBehaviorAdmin")
    - zamadatix 2y ago
      On Windows installs the default user created in a home/pro install is an admin and it never prompts the user to go create a non-admin account for daily use. This actually makes perfect sense in itself (beyond the behavior defaults you mention being backwards).
  - justsomehnguy 2y ago
    Notice you ignored setenforce and what it's already a root session.
fortran77 2y ago
"Secure by Design" [0] MacOS also ships with at least 2 different virus scanners [1] that are as active as Defender [0] https://www.apple.com/business/docs/site/AAW_Platform_Security.pdf https://www.apple.com/business/docs/site/AAW_Platform_Securi... [1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/08/apple-quietly-revamps-malware-scanning-features-in-newer-macos-versions/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/08/apple-quietly-revamp...
- devwastaken 2y ago
  Not even close to "as active". Defender will scan everything, even windows own updates. It is the reason why Windows machines perform poorly and why battery life is a joke on that platform. It's intrusive and doesn't care much about resource use.
  - fortran77 2y ago
    My Lenovo X13s lasts about 15 hours on a charge and performs very well.

justsomehnguy 2y ago

> the operating system does not have proper security measures in the first place > everyone else laughs Meanwhile: So let's install our shiny $UB3RK3WLAPP ! # setenforce 0 # curl http://ub3rk3wlapp.io/install | sudo bash

devwastaken 2y ago
Notice the sudo and terminal. You must enter a password in a terminal. In windows you just click twice.
- chii 2y ago
  how is that any different? you're still allowing arbitrary code to run. Unless you are saying that those who type into the terminal will first |echo the script into a file, verify it, then run?
- _Microft 2y ago
  > In windows you just click twice. Uh, oh, that means you're working on an admin account. If you are using a normal user account, you will be prompted to enter your admin credentials instead. (You can also force this behaviour on administrator accounts. Search for the registry setting "ConsentPromptBehaviorAdmin")
  - zamadatix 2y ago
    On Windows installs the default user created in a home/pro install is an admin and it never prompts the user to go create a non-admin account for daily use. This actually makes perfect sense in itself (beyond the behavior defaults you mention being backwards).
- justsomehnguy 2y ago
  Notice you ignored setenforce and what it's already a root session.

fortran77 2y ago

"Secure by Design" [0] MacOS also ships with at least 2 different virus scanners [1] that are as active as Defender [0] https://www.apple.com/business/docs/site/AAW_Platform_Security.pdf https://www.apple.com/business/docs/site/AAW_Platform_Securi... [1] https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/08/apple-quietly-revamps-malware-scanning-features-in-newer-macos-versions/ https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2022/08/apple-quietly-revamp...

devwastaken 2y ago
Not even close to "as active". Defender will scan everything, even windows own updates. It is the reason why Windows machines perform poorly and why battery life is a joke on that platform. It's intrusive and doesn't care much about resource use.
- fortran77 2y ago
  My Lenovo X13s lasts about 15 hours on a charge and performs very well.