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Russia Is Increasingly Blocking Ukraine's Starlink Service

39 points by ulrischa 2y ago

monsecchris 2y ago
If Elon was more diligent and spent less time philandering with the far-right he could have anticipated this and provided an appropriate solution or alternative.
- brippalcharrid 2y ago
  He's probably hesitant to do something that would be likely to bring his company's satellites closer to being seen as combatants in a proxy war between major powers, seeing as they were being used as an important part of Ukraine's drone warfare in this case, and actively countering Russia's countermeasures would be likely to move the status of him and his business interests from "relatively neutral" to "Axis of Evil".
  - FireBeyond 2y ago
    Well, that and Tesla in China sources a large amount of their metals from Russia...
- cwillu 2y ago
  If he was more diligent, he could have defeated the wartime abilities of a nation state?
- panick21_ 2y ago
  Starlink wasn't developed primarily for the military. Ukraine is literally using a commercial product. That commercial product has prevented electronic warfare better then anybody expect and better then all other competing products. But its the CEO personal politics that is responsible for a nation states being able to sometimes block a consumer product after multiple years of warfare.
- lenkite 2y ago
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- erkt 2y ago
  This meme of hating someone for having different politics is getting very old. Why didn’t you save the world with all the clear headedness that comes from having the correct politics?
thearchiv1st 2y ago
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casenmgreen 2y ago
I'm of the view NYT reports UA war in the most negative possible way. Ditto Business Insider, Politico as well. I see stories which either deliberately ignore fundamental and simple military or situational knowledge, in order to present a theme of failure or hopelessness. Example : the recent stories about "UA had nothing to stop the Russians when they came over the border". You have a pick/scout line thrown out at the border, not your main forces, and any initial attack has overwhelming strength and you trade space for defence, wearing the attacker down and drawing them out of their established support "bubble" which extends up to and somewhat over their current lines (drones, arty, EW, etc). Fundamental lack of basic military knowledge - idiotic reporting - or deliberately presenting a negative narrative, which is fundamentally and profoundly invalid and ignores reality and correctness, for whatever reasons.
- rainworld 2y ago
  >trade space for defence No. The losses we have on tape—what and where—paint a clear picture: They were not prepared and paid for it. It’s true that the depth of Ukraine’s misery sometimes gets exaggerated, by Ukrainians themselves and by friendly Western journalists. With a singular purpose: to ensure continuation and increase of deliveries. So what you’re doing here amounts to attacking a straw man. >ignores reality and correctness That is: The daily flood of gore. Funny numbers from the ever-dwindling crowd of “OSINT” peddlers. Bromides from Kopemans and Copelees.

39 points by ulrischa 2y ago

If Elon was more diligent and spent less time philandering with the far-right he could have anticipated this and provided an appropriate solution or alternative.

brippalcharrid 2y ago
He's probably hesitant to do something that would be likely to bring his company's satellites closer to being seen as combatants in a proxy war between major powers, seeing as they were being used as an important part of Ukraine's drone warfare in this case, and actively countering Russia's countermeasures would be likely to move the status of him and his business interests from "relatively neutral" to "Axis of Evil".
- FireBeyond 2y ago
  Well, that and Tesla in China sources a large amount of their metals from Russia...
cwillu 2y ago
If he was more diligent, he could have defeated the wartime abilities of a nation state?
panick21_ 2y ago
Starlink wasn't developed primarily for the military. Ukraine is literally using a commercial product. That commercial product has prevented electronic warfare better then anybody expect and better then all other competing products. But its the CEO personal politics that is responsible for a nation states being able to sometimes block a consumer product after multiple years of warfare.
lenkite 2y ago
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erkt 2y ago
This meme of hating someone for having different politics is getting very old. Why didn’t you save the world with all the clear headedness that comes from having the correct politics?

thearchiv1st 2y ago

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casenmgreen 2y ago

I'm of the view NYT reports UA war in the most negative possible way. Ditto Business Insider, Politico as well. I see stories which either deliberately ignore fundamental and simple military or situational knowledge, in order to present a theme of failure or hopelessness. Example : the recent stories about "UA had nothing to stop the Russians when they came over the border". You have a pick/scout line thrown out at the border, not your main forces, and any initial attack has overwhelming strength and you trade space for defence, wearing the attacker down and drawing them out of their established support "bubble" which extends up to and somewhat over their current lines (drones, arty, EW, etc). Fundamental lack of basic military knowledge - idiotic reporting - or deliberately presenting a negative narrative, which is fundamentally and profoundly invalid and ignores reality and correctness, for whatever reasons.

rainworld 2y ago
>trade space for defence No. The losses we have on tape—what and where—paint a clear picture: They were not prepared and paid for it. It’s true that the depth of Ukraine’s misery sometimes gets exaggerated, by Ukrainians themselves and by friendly Western journalists. With a singular purpose: to ensure continuation and increase of deliveries. So what you’re doing here amounts to attacking a straw man. >ignores reality and correctness That is: The daily flood of gore. Funny numbers from the ever-dwindling crowd of “OSINT” peddlers. Bromides from Kopemans and Copelees.