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> Can you name what thing they mention in that blog post is anti-consumer? Candidly, Epic: https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2023/03/ftc-fina

> Can you name what thing they mention in that blog post is anti-consumer? Candidly, Epic: https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2023/03/ftc-finalizes-order-requiring-fortnite-maker-epic-games-pay-245-million-tricking-users-making https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/news/press-releases/2023/03/... Epic isnt fighting for the consumer. Epic is fighting so they can fuck you in place of google.

refulgentis 2y ago
So, no, but it sucks they use Google in app purchases so they must be anti-consumer I'm a mobile dev so they're actually helping me out a fair bit here, and the consumer as well. Right now I literally cannot tell you that Google and Apple are making me do a 30% surcharge
- zer00eyz 2y ago
  > making me do a 30% surcharge You're making more than a million a year as a mobile dev? Because less than a mill, or for subscription services it's 15% from Apple. Candidly if your a small team, 15% to not have to chase chargebacks on digital goods is a raw deal.
  - refulgentis 2y ago
    No, just an old warhouse who went corporate, left 6 months, and is in pre release - I keep forgetting to apply for that, ty.
Barrin92 2y ago
> Epic is fighting so they can fuck you in place of google. I'm under no illusion that Epic is doing this for any other reason than profit but that is structurally impossible. Google owns the OS, in my personal case makes the phone I use and runs about half of the essential services on it. The worst thing Epic can make me do is not to play Fortnite. Anything that annoys Google and makes Epic happy is, given that dynamic, likely competition and market enhancing.
seoulmetro 2y ago
If two people are fighting to fuck you over one person, the person trying to escape the fucking wins just a bit more.
kobalsky 2y ago
Epic is fighting for a part of Google's cake that is protected by anti-competitive means. In this case, even if they were a morally bankrupt organization, they are doing something that in the end will benefit users. We should be able to recognize that even if we don't like Epic.

refulgentis 2y ago

So, no, but it sucks they use Google in app purchases so they must be anti-consumer I'm a mobile dev so they're actually helping me out a fair bit here, and the consumer as well. Right now I literally cannot tell you that Google and Apple are making me do a 30% surcharge

zer00eyz 2y ago
> making me do a 30% surcharge You're making more than a million a year as a mobile dev? Because less than a mill, or for subscription services it's 15% from Apple. Candidly if your a small team, 15% to not have to chase chargebacks on digital goods is a raw deal.
- refulgentis 2y ago
  No, just an old warhouse who went corporate, left 6 months, and is in pre release - I keep forgetting to apply for that, ty.

Barrin92 2y ago

> Epic is fighting so they can fuck you in place of google. I'm under no illusion that Epic is doing this for any other reason than profit but that is structurally impossible. Google owns the OS, in my personal case makes the phone I use and runs about half of the essential services on it. The worst thing Epic can make me do is not to play Fortnite. Anything that annoys Google and makes Epic happy is, given that dynamic, likely competition and market enhancing.

seoulmetro 2y ago

If two people are fighting to fuck you over one person, the person trying to escape the fucking wins just a bit more.

kobalsky 2y ago

Epic is fighting for a part of Google's cake that is protected by anti-competitive means. In this case, even if they were a morally bankrupt organization, they are doing something that in the end will benefit users. We should be able to recognize that even if we don't like Epic.