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The already existing push to force everyone to log onto their local computer with an online Microsoft account (instead of a traditional local account), along si

The already existing push to force everyone to log onto their local computer with an online Microsoft account (instead of a traditional local account), along side telemetry users cannot completely turn off already showed the company moving in a privacy hostile direction. This move seems a lot like using machine local AI to feed additional user interest data into everyone's online profiles for Microsoft's growing ad business. I'm also willing to bet that enterprise would value an additional way to track employees.

api 2y ago
The beatings will continue until privacy concerns actually influence a large proportion of customers’ buying decisions. The problem is that there are endless huge incentives to invade privacy: ads, selling data, product telemetry, even the push for internal metrics. Nothing counterbalances this. Most customers just don’t care.
- jasonfarnon 2y ago
  I think it could also end up addressed by legislation. If not direct legislation as in the EU, then just opening some avenues to litigation.
xattt 2y ago
> I'm also willing to bet that enterprise would value an additional way to track employees. This is it, but also to put the framework in place to train models to do employee grunt work.
- bboygravity 2y ago
  I don't know how far US companies (and their NSA) have to go to make EU companies go "wait, they're doing industrial espionage on us". Just the fact that companies outside the US use Outlook and OneDrive for everything is mind boggling to me, but this recall thing is industrial spyware to the extreme.
  - hulitu 2y ago
    US (and the NSA) is our best friend. Thanks to US we have the freedom to choose our best friend. Our best friend gives us everything we need and helps us to make good decisions. Even if our best friend looks at what we are doing, this is just to help us further. /s
causal 2y ago
YES - and they hide their "syncing" spyware in so many places that tracking down all the settings to shut it off is such a chore. Including: - OneDrive - Windows Device Linking - Edge - Bing - Cortana - Copilot - Outlook / 365 You'll never track down all the included Windows services that default to sending data to their cloud.

api 2y ago

The beatings will continue until privacy concerns actually influence a large proportion of customers’ buying decisions. The problem is that there are endless huge incentives to invade privacy: ads, selling data, product telemetry, even the push for internal metrics. Nothing counterbalances this. Most customers just don’t care.

jasonfarnon 2y ago
I think it could also end up addressed by legislation. If not direct legislation as in the EU, then just opening some avenues to litigation.

xattt 2y ago

> I'm also willing to bet that enterprise would value an additional way to track employees. This is it, but also to put the framework in place to train models to do employee grunt work.

bboygravity 2y ago
I don't know how far US companies (and their NSA) have to go to make EU companies go "wait, they're doing industrial espionage on us". Just the fact that companies outside the US use Outlook and OneDrive for everything is mind boggling to me, but this recall thing is industrial spyware to the extreme.
- hulitu 2y ago
  US (and the NSA) is our best friend. Thanks to US we have the freedom to choose our best friend. Our best friend gives us everything we need and helps us to make good decisions. Even if our best friend looks at what we are doing, this is just to help us further. /s

causal 2y ago

YES - and they hide their "syncing" spyware in so many places that tracking down all the settings to shut it off is such a chore. Including: - OneDrive - Windows Device Linking - Edge - Bing - Cortana - Copilot - Outlook / 365 You'll never track down all the included Windows services that default to sending data to their cloud.