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Regarding the maps thing... > My dad’s house wasn’t on the map. Neither was my mom’s house. Neither was my friend’s place. Obviously I can’t use apps based on

Regarding the maps thing... > My dad’s house wasn’t on the map. Neither was my mom’s house. Neither was my friend’s place. Obviously I can’t use apps based on OpenStreetMaps to get me places if the places I want to go aren’t on the map. What do they mean by not on the map? Is it not showing up in search? Is it the housenumber wasn't there? Is it the street not existing at all? If manually zooming to the place was it showing with the correct street and number? I'm curious since I've found OSM coverage to be pretty good for things like streets and housenumbers since they are generally based on imported data, no?

jcul 2y ago
Yeah this is surprising to me too. Also, you can contribute to osm if a street was missing. The complaint about having to download the map seems unreasonable too. It downloads the world map and then the local map and you're done. Generally the local map for an area is like 50 to 100MB from memory. Perhaps they are in a very remote location with slow internet and no map data, but downloading the lineage ROM would be a lot slower than downloading a single map.
- tadfisher 2y ago
  They should learn from Google, and package their maps so they can be streamed to clients piecemeal. I bet they spend more in data egress than compute, and PostGIS is basically made for this.
  - SahAssar 2y ago
    That's the default way to use OpenStreetMap, either with vector or raster tiles. I'm guessing these apps did it this way for a reason, probably to support the offline usecase and not need a separate way to do it.
    - jcul 2y ago
      Yeah I think organic maps and maps.me (the original organic maps was forked from) had the main purpose of being offline maps. Great for travelling. Also cool to check where you are on planes, on non intercontinental flights that don't have screens.
brnt 2y ago
I specifically use OSM because it is by far the most complete. It has every trail branch on it while Gmaps, Bmaps usually are missing out any trails that aren't car driveable.
maxerickson 2y ago
It's highly variable and there are lots of places in OSM where there's barely any addresses.

jcul 2y ago

Yeah this is surprising to me too. Also, you can contribute to osm if a street was missing. The complaint about having to download the map seems unreasonable too. It downloads the world map and then the local map and you're done. Generally the local map for an area is like 50 to 100MB from memory. Perhaps they are in a very remote location with slow internet and no map data, but downloading the lineage ROM would be a lot slower than downloading a single map.

tadfisher 2y ago
They should learn from Google, and package their maps so they can be streamed to clients piecemeal. I bet they spend more in data egress than compute, and PostGIS is basically made for this.
- SahAssar 2y ago
  That's the default way to use OpenStreetMap, either with vector or raster tiles. I'm guessing these apps did it this way for a reason, probably to support the offline usecase and not need a separate way to do it.
  - jcul 2y ago
    Yeah I think organic maps and maps.me (the original organic maps was forked from) had the main purpose of being offline maps. Great for travelling. Also cool to check where you are on planes, on non intercontinental flights that don't have screens.

brnt 2y ago

I specifically use OSM because it is by far the most complete. It has every trail branch on it while Gmaps, Bmaps usually are missing out any trails that aren't car driveable.

maxerickson 2y ago

It's highly variable and there are lots of places in OSM where there's barely any addresses.