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That's a good thing. Will also probably help move the needle of politics to the left a bit.

by anovikov 2y ago

influx 2y ago
You need to do drugs to think politically left? Why?
- Quimoniz 2y ago
  Psychological trait: Openness. It's associated with Liberalism and the political left. Also see [Big Five personality traits](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits).
  - cowmix 2y ago
    A lot of my right of center friends have seemed to justify drug use just fine these days.
    - ceejayoz 2y ago
      That's the needle moving.
      - jerkstate 2y ago
        yeah, libertarianism/classic liberalism used to be considered left-wing in the usa, but now is a right-of-center position.
- margalabargala 2y ago
  You've got it backwards.
  - groestl 2y ago
    It's a feedback loop.
  - MuffinFlavored 2y ago
    If you do drugs, you think politically left? Those who think politically left do drugs?
- ceejayoz 2y ago
  Not the original poster, but I'd imagine something similar to gay marriage; after decades of "it'll collapse society if people can do x" warnings, it becomes clear they were wildly overblown.
- deleted 2y ago
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- snarf21 2y ago
  I don't think that is what they were implying. Conservatism tends to be about not changing or considering new things. It tends to be more "I was raised that X was wrong, so X is wrong". (It is how I was raised for sure.) So, if a historically conservative person tries weed and it doesn't turn out to be the all encompassing evil they were lead to believe, it may open them up to forming new personally verified opinions on other issues too.
- petercooper 2y ago
  Yeah, I don't think it comes down to left/right as much as the orthogonal spectrum of conservativism to (small l) libertarianism. People across the left/right spectrum are anti-drug for public safety, decency, or religious reasons, but equally there are those who feel individuals should be able to do what they want to themselves.
DontchaKnowit 2y ago
Yep sounds awful. Every listened to the political opinions of a stoner? Theyre typically exceedingly dumb.
karaterobot 2y ago
That using marijuana would make someone more left is a logical non-sequitor and, I feel certain, not empirically demonstrated, at least not rigorously. And the fact that you'd want to live in a world where consuming different substances was what dictated people's beliefs is baffling to me. Think of the consequences.
- keybored 2y ago
  Might seem absurd for a light substance like marijuana. But I would be surprised if, say, someone took mushrooms and then it was a 50/50 chance as far as going right or left (if any change).

That's a good thing. Will also probably help move the needle of politics to the left a bit.

influx 2y ago

You need to do drugs to think politically left? Why?

Quimoniz 2y ago
Psychological trait: Openness. It's associated with Liberalism and the political left. Also see [Big Five personality traits](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Five_personality_traits).
- cowmix 2y ago
  A lot of my right of center friends have seemed to justify drug use just fine these days.
  - ceejayoz 2y ago
    That's the needle moving.
    - jerkstate 2y ago
      yeah, libertarianism/classic liberalism used to be considered left-wing in the usa, but now is a right-of-center position.
margalabargala 2y ago
You've got it backwards.
- groestl 2y ago
  It's a feedback loop.
- MuffinFlavored 2y ago
  If you do drugs, you think politically left? Those who think politically left do drugs?
ceejayoz 2y ago
Not the original poster, but I'd imagine something similar to gay marriage; after decades of "it'll collapse society if people can do x" warnings, it becomes clear they were wildly overblown.
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snarf21 2y ago
I don't think that is what they were implying. Conservatism tends to be about not changing or considering new things. It tends to be more "I was raised that X was wrong, so X is wrong". (It is how I was raised for sure.) So, if a historically conservative person tries weed and it doesn't turn out to be the all encompassing evil they were lead to believe, it may open them up to forming new personally verified opinions on other issues too.
petercooper 2y ago
Yeah, I don't think it comes down to left/right as much as the orthogonal spectrum of conservativism to (small l) libertarianism. People across the left/right spectrum are anti-drug for public safety, decency, or religious reasons, but equally there are those who feel individuals should be able to do what they want to themselves.

DontchaKnowit 2y ago

Yep sounds awful. Every listened to the political opinions of a stoner? Theyre typically exceedingly dumb.

karaterobot 2y ago

That using marijuana would make someone more left is a logical non-sequitor and, I feel certain, not empirically demonstrated, at least not rigorously. And the fact that you'd want to live in a world where consuming different substances was what dictated people's beliefs is baffling to me. Think of the consequences.

keybored 2y ago
Might seem absurd for a light substance like marijuana. But I would be surprised if, say, someone took mushrooms and then it was a 50/50 chance as far as going right or left (if any change).