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Are they actually unmetered or are they unmetered? up to 2TB per month

Are they actually unmetered or are they unmetered*? * up to 2TB per month

immibis 2y ago
It's unmetered* * if our upstream is saturated we're going to look at our biggest users and if the number is really big we'll send them a polite email to please reduce it or pay more. There are reports of people getting emails from Hetzner after sending multiple Gbps continuously for several months. That's the level you have to reach before the * kicks in. Only 1Gbps servers are unmetered, so you'd have to have several. If you want to know a better approximation of their true cost just look at their non-unlimited plans: 20TB/month included for free; 1€/TB (excl VAT) after that. I have one more interesting data point to add: I was quoted 950€/month for a dedicated 10Gbps between Berlin and Amsterdam (about 600km) plus peering at AMS-IX, or 300€ for 1Gbps. (They're not secretive and you can just ask for a quote using their sales contact form). Extrapolating, it seems that 1€ is worth about 2.5 petabyte-kilometers, at least within the dense interconnections of continental Europe. About twice the price of shipping a petabyte of hard drives the same distance.
- Dylan16807 2y ago
  > If you want to know a better approximation of their true cost just look at their non-unlimited plans: 20TB/month included for free; 1€/TB (excl VAT) after that. I will point out that this is still about 50x-80x cheaper than Amazon. Not far off the claim of 100x.
  - immibis 2y ago
    Mhm. Save literally 98% of your egress bill by avoiding AWS, GCP and Azure.
    - manquer 2y ago
      AWS is particularly bad at this for S3. Cloudflare and most other Object Storage Providers either fully free egress for all users or at-least for inter-cloud transit so you can then put a free/cheap CDN like Cloudflare in front and not pay all that much for b/w. AWS refuses to participate. Costs of retrieval of all data plus associated bandwidth is a so high for many people that they stick to S3 including me.
  - ec109685 2y ago
    There are enterprise plans that offer significant savings if your scale is high enough.
keepamovin 2y ago
Yes, it’s unmetered. Just colocation. You pay for the maximum rate basically not the amount sent, if that. The cloud bandwidth you get on your VPS has nothing to do with costs at the scale where you’ve racks in data centers.

Are they actually unmetered or are they unmetered*? * up to 2TB per month

It's unmetered* * if our upstream is saturated we're going to look at our biggest users and if the number is really big we'll send them a polite email to please reduce it or pay more. There are reports of people getting emails from Hetzner after sending multiple Gbps continuously for several months. That's the level you have to reach before the * kicks in. Only 1Gbps servers are unmetered, so you'd have to have several. If you want to know a better approximation of their true cost just look at their non-unlimited plans: 20TB/month included for free; 1€/TB (excl VAT) after that. I have one more interesting data point to add: I was quoted 950€/month for a dedicated 10Gbps between Berlin and Amsterdam (about 600km) plus peering at AMS-IX, or 300€ for 1Gbps. (They're not secretive and you can just ask for a quote using their sales contact form). Extrapolating, it seems that 1€ is worth about 2.5 petabyte-kilometers, at least within the dense interconnections of continental Europe. About twice the price of shipping a petabyte of hard drives the same distance.

Dylan16807 2y ago
> If you want to know a better approximation of their true cost just look at their non-unlimited plans: 20TB/month included for free; 1€/TB (excl VAT) after that. I will point out that this is still about 50x-80x cheaper than Amazon. Not far off the claim of 100x.
- immibis 2y ago
  Mhm. Save literally 98% of your egress bill by avoiding AWS, GCP and Azure.
  - manquer 2y ago
    AWS is particularly bad at this for S3. Cloudflare and most other Object Storage Providers either fully free egress for all users or at-least for inter-cloud transit so you can then put a free/cheap CDN like Cloudflare in front and not pay all that much for b/w. AWS refuses to participate. Costs of retrieval of all data plus associated bandwidth is a so high for many people that they stick to S3 including me.
- ec109685 2y ago
  There are enterprise plans that offer significant savings if your scale is high enough.

keepamovin 2y ago

Yes, it’s unmetered. Just colocation. You pay for the maximum rate basically not the amount sent, if that. The cloud bandwidth you get on your VPS has nothing to do with costs at the scale where you’ve racks in data centers.