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I think “network routing solution” means something different to me and the authors.

AbraKdabra 2y ago
That's because you're missing the "homelab" that comes before those words, like it's stated in the title, I opened the link and was greeted by exactly what I was expecting.
- metanonsense 2y ago
  Can you explain why you expected this from the title? When I hear „network routing“, the first thing that comes into my mind is IP routing, not a reverse proxy. With a „homelab“, I‘d never associate the need for a reverse proxy or SSL certificates.
  - sambazi 2y ago
    you're thinking "computer networking", they mean "webapp experimentation"
    - superb_dev 2y ago
      Maybe they should use words that mean “webapp experimentation” instead of “computer networking”
      - sambazi 2y ago
        imho it's a legitimate use of the term. though the tension of meaning suggests that there is room for clarification
  - dfc 2y ago
    The "homelab" modifier does a lot of work. When I read homelab I was expecting "easy way for non tech person to do computer magic." When I read about a "gun fight" I am expecting to read about violence and carnage. If you put the word "water" in front of it I am no longer expecting violence and carnage in a wet environment. Homelab changes the definition of everything that comes after it much like water changes the definition of gun fight.
    - Dalewyn 2y ago
      >When I read homelab I was expecting "easy way for non tech person to do computer magic." Isn't that hypocritical? The very nature of a home lab means whoever owns it is a tech person. A "non tech person" wouldn't even know what a home lab is, at least in the context of computers and technology.
      - dfc 2y ago
        I do not think it is hypocritical. I did not behave in a manner that contradicts something I have said or believe.
  - AbraKdabra 2y ago
    I expected that because I didn't just read "network routing", I read "homelab network routing", I don't 100% agree with the title but nowadays a homelab means docker containers and a reverse proxy to expose them all. Also Zoraxy sounds a lot like "proxy", so there's that.
- kuschku 2y ago
  Homelab network routing means pfsense, opensense, vyos, ubiquity. What does this product have to do with "routing" at all? How is it a router?
  - ComodoHacker 2y ago
    It is routing web requests to backend endpoints, I guess.
  - soneil 2y ago
    I think it's an interesting quirk that we don't use the same terms for what are essentially the same concepts. Switching is $verbing at layer 2, IP routing is $verbing at layer 3, NAT is $verbing at layer 4, and reverse proxying is $verbing at layer 5. I'd argue that 'route' is the right value for $verb here.
navigate8310 2y ago
It's a fancy reverse proxy with GUI
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sambazi 2y ago
yea, the term "routing" was overlaid by the webheads to describe the handling of an http-request after hitting the first webserver. this is quite confusing to ppl that deal with "routing protocols", "routing tables" and other stuff that makes the internet work.

That's because you're missing the "homelab" that comes before those words, like it's stated in the title, I opened the link and was greeted by exactly what I was expecting.

metanonsense 2y ago
Can you explain why you expected this from the title? When I hear „network routing“, the first thing that comes into my mind is IP routing, not a reverse proxy. With a „homelab“, I‘d never associate the need for a reverse proxy or SSL certificates.
- sambazi 2y ago
  you're thinking "computer networking", they mean "webapp experimentation"
  - superb_dev 2y ago
    Maybe they should use words that mean “webapp experimentation” instead of “computer networking”
    - sambazi 2y ago
      imho it's a legitimate use of the term. though the tension of meaning suggests that there is room for clarification
- dfc 2y ago
  The "homelab" modifier does a lot of work. When I read homelab I was expecting "easy way for non tech person to do computer magic." When I read about a "gun fight" I am expecting to read about violence and carnage. If you put the word "water" in front of it I am no longer expecting violence and carnage in a wet environment. Homelab changes the definition of everything that comes after it much like water changes the definition of gun fight.
  - Dalewyn 2y ago
    >When I read homelab I was expecting "easy way for non tech person to do computer magic." Isn't that hypocritical? The very nature of a home lab means whoever owns it is a tech person. A "non tech person" wouldn't even know what a home lab is, at least in the context of computers and technology.
    - dfc 2y ago
      I do not think it is hypocritical. I did not behave in a manner that contradicts something I have said or believe.
- AbraKdabra 2y ago
  I expected that because I didn't just read "network routing", I read "homelab network routing", I don't 100% agree with the title but nowadays a homelab means docker containers and a reverse proxy to expose them all. Also Zoraxy sounds a lot like "proxy", so there's that.
kuschku 2y ago
Homelab network routing means pfsense, opensense, vyos, ubiquity. What does this product have to do with "routing" at all? How is it a router?
- ComodoHacker 2y ago
  It is routing web requests to backend endpoints, I guess.
- soneil 2y ago
  I think it's an interesting quirk that we don't use the same terms for what are essentially the same concepts. Switching is $verbing at layer 2, IP routing is $verbing at layer 3, NAT is $verbing at layer 4, and reverse proxying is $verbing at layer 5. I'd argue that 'route' is the right value for $verb here.

navigate8310 2y ago

It's a fancy reverse proxy with GUI

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sambazi 2y ago

yea, the term "routing" was overlaid by the webheads to describe the handling of an http-request after hitting the first webserver. this is quite confusing to ppl that deal with "routing protocols", "routing tables" and other stuff that makes the internet work.