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Facebook is easily more harmful than TikTok and should get the same treatment.

by p_j_w 2y ago

bgun 2y ago
The "treatment" TikTok is receiving is a requirement that its US presence should be sold to a US company. Facebook is already a US company, so I'm not sure what you mean. TikTok is not actually getting banned, unless it fails to achieve that sale, which is highly unlikely.
- orangecat 2y ago
  It looks like the CCP will not allow TikTok to be sold (https://twitter.com/michaelsobolik/status/1787902538928304338 https://twitter.com/michaelsobolik/status/178790253892830433...), which just further establishes that it's primarily an intelligence and propaganda operation controlled by a hostile government.
- p_j_w 2y ago
  > I'm not sure what you mean. Stop with the intentionally obtuse “well akshually” stuff. You know what I meant: lawmakers should put Facebook under the same scrutiny and find a legal loophole that allows them to stop the harm Facebook is causing. > TikTok is not actually getting banned Semantic bullshit. Similarly strong logical footing as “we’re democratic we just don’t allow non-communist political parties.”
  - orangecat 2y ago
    Whether feed-driven social media is bad is orthogonal to whether China controlling TikTok is a national security threat. Personally I believe both are true, but the latter is much easier to deal with via legislation. Semantic bullshit. Similarly strong logical footing as “we’re democratic we just don’t allow non-communist political parties.” Would you be fine with Yandex running TikTok?
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NayamAmarshe 2y ago
Facebook is nothing compared to Instagram.
kjkjadksj 2y ago
I feel like ticktok is more damaging for just how your brain is wired more than anything. People are walking into bathrooms and using the urinals one handed without putting the phone down the entire time. I can’t imagine spending every free second of your life engaging with short form media is going to help your ability to deeply think about things.
- p_j_w 2y ago
  You don’t need TikTok to promote that kind of behavior. I know people who do that and have never touched TikTok in their lives. Meanwhile Facebook was used as a tool in a real life insurrection that got people killed.
  - DaSHacka 2y ago
    That argument could similarly be made for the countless "trends" that have harmed TikTok users and those around them, or really any other social media platform. I dont see how Facebook is unique in this regard.

Facebook is easily more harmful than TikTok and should get the same treatment.

by p_j_w 2y ago

Facebook is easily more harmful than TikTok and should get the same treatment.

bgun 2y ago

The "treatment" TikTok is receiving is a requirement that its US presence should be sold to a US company. Facebook is already a US company, so I'm not sure what you mean. TikTok is not actually getting banned, unless it fails to achieve that sale, which is highly unlikely.

orangecat 2y ago
It looks like the CCP will not allow TikTok to be sold (https://twitter.com/michaelsobolik/status/1787902538928304338 https://twitter.com/michaelsobolik/status/178790253892830433...), which just further establishes that it's primarily an intelligence and propaganda operation controlled by a hostile government.
p_j_w 2y ago
> I'm not sure what you mean. Stop with the intentionally obtuse “well akshually” stuff. You know what I meant: lawmakers should put Facebook under the same scrutiny and find a legal loophole that allows them to stop the harm Facebook is causing. > TikTok is not actually getting banned Semantic bullshit. Similarly strong logical footing as “we’re democratic we just don’t allow non-communist political parties.”
- orangecat 2y ago
  Whether feed-driven social media is bad is orthogonal to whether China controlling TikTok is a national security threat. Personally I believe both are true, but the latter is much easier to deal with via legislation. Semantic bullshit. Similarly strong logical footing as “we’re democratic we just don’t allow non-communist political parties.” Would you be fine with Yandex running TikTok?
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NayamAmarshe 2y ago

Facebook is nothing compared to Instagram.

kjkjadksj 2y ago

I feel like ticktok is more damaging for just how your brain is wired more than anything. People are walking into bathrooms and using the urinals one handed without putting the phone down the entire time. I can’t imagine spending every free second of your life engaging with short form media is going to help your ability to deeply think about things.

p_j_w 2y ago
You don’t need TikTok to promote that kind of behavior. I know people who do that and have never touched TikTok in their lives. Meanwhile Facebook was used as a tool in a real life insurrection that got people killed.
- DaSHacka 2y ago
  That argument could similarly be made for the countless "trends" that have harmed TikTok users and those around them, or really any other social media platform. I dont see how Facebook is unique in this regard.