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>dangerous for mentally unwell users It's not our job to make the world safe for fundamentally unsafe people.
by llm_trw 2y ago
>dangerous for mentally unwell users
It's not our job to make the world safe for fundamentally unsafe people.
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- kettro 2y agoI would argue that it is society’s job to care for its most vulnerable.
- bongodongobob 2y agoThat doesn't mean we pad all the rooms or ban peanuts. Yes, we should care for them but not at the detriment of the other 99%.
- earthling8118 2y agoWell, conveniently, this is benefitting the 1% much more than the 99%
- llm_trw 2y agoAnd a nanny state benefits a different 1% much more than the 99%.
- bongodongobob 2y agoDo you mean the richest 1%? How? Sounds pretty woo woo to me.
- llm_trw 2y agoYes, not openai's.
- woopsn 2y ago"Our primary fiduciary duty is to humanity."
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- dns_snek 2y agoIt depends. I don't think OpenAI (or anyone else selling products to the general audience) should be forced to make their products so safe that they can't possibly harm anyone under any circumstance. That's just going to make the product useless (like many LLMs currently are, depending on the topic). However that's a very different standard than the original comment which stated: > I suspect Altman/Brockman/Murati intended for this thing to be dangerous for mentally unwell users, using the exact same logic as tobacco companies. Tobacco companies knew about the dangers of their products, and they purposefully downplayed them, manipulated research, and exploited addictive properties of their products for profit, which caused great harm to society. Disclosing all known (or potential) dangers of your products and not purposefully exploiting society (psychologically, physiologically, financially, or otherwise) is a standard that every company should be forced to meet.
- swat535 2y agoCorporations should benefit the society and avoid harming it in some shape or form, this is why we have regulations around them.
- limpbizkitfan 2y agoOkay this is a weird philosophy to have lol
- anthonypasq 2y agono it isnt, its how everything in society currently operates. We put dangerous people in jail away from everyone else
- itishappy 2y agoThe crime of the "dangerous people" in OP's statement was loneliness and suggestibility.
- baobabKoodaa 2y agoAnd it's not OpenAI's job to safetify the world for gullible loners.
- itishappy 2y agoWho else can? OpenAI makes the tool. Are you suggesting we need government intervention or just saying "damn the consequences"?
- baobabKoodaa 2y agoSociety can't be built with the idea that everything has to work for the most troubled and challenging individuals. We build cars, even though some alcoholics drive drunk. We could make cars safer for them by mandating a steering wheel lock with breathalazyer for every car, but we choose to not do that because it's expensive. We have horror movies, even though some people really freak out from watching horror movies, to the point where they have to be placed in mental asylums for extended periods of time. We could outlaw horror movies to reduce the strain on these mentally troubled individuals, but we choose to not do that because horror movies are cool.
- lantry 2y agoThis is literally everyone's job. It's the whole point of society. Everyone is "fundamentally unsafe", and we all rely on each other.
- kiba 2y agoWe may not be responsible for people's behaviors but it's certainly not going to get better if nobody do anything about it.
- baobabKoodaa 2y ago[flagged]
- hengheng 2y ago> This is the most extreme left viewpoint I have ever heard in my life. In that case I suggest more exposure to viewpoints that aren't similar to your own.
- baobabKoodaa 2y agoIf that's all you have to say on this, then I whole heartedly recommend the same to you as well.
- CooCooCaCha 2y agoPlease enumerate some right wing perspectives that we should learn about. I’m curious.
- baobabKoodaa 2y agoI'm not here to promote "right wing" ideology or any other political agenda. I'm stating - as a matter of fact - that different people have different jobs and different responsibilities. I'm also stating - as an opinion - that that's okay.
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- itishappy 2y agoI'm guessing your work isn't sanitation either. Do you throw your trash straight on the ground? Some things are everyone's responsibility if we want to live in a pleasant society.
- nicklecompte 2y ago"fundamentally unsafe people" is probably the grossest thing I've read on here in years.
- poulpy123 2y agoActually yes, it's our job