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The beginning of enshitification of discord (while 100% expected) for some reason hits harder then any other service I've used throughout all these years. It ha

The beginning of enshitification of discord (while 100% expected) for some reason hits harder then any other service I've used throughout all these years. It has entirely replaced social media for me. It just felt more organic to me then anything else. So... since I've heard about the ads coming to discord, I have looked into alternatives. They do exist, in varying quality, and there are programs for some of them that make a "bridge" from a discord server to your new platform. It's possible to have your cake and eat it to. Matrix looks really close, but it needs ALOT of love. I have high hopes for matrix because of the idea of it. Perhaps my lackluster experience was because I didn't choose the best client available. I'm still trying new things here. https://matrix.org/ https://matrix.org/ Revolt is the more complete product as of today. https://revolt.chat/ https://revolt.chat/ Spacebar I have yet to try but it's on my radar. https://github.com/spacebarchat https://github.com/spacebarchat I just wanted to see if anyone else had other recommendations for me to try. I really would appreciate help here. Hopefully something open source and self hosted so I can stop migrating and sink some roots in somewhere. Oh crap, is it IRC?

shrimp_emoji 2y ago
I'm just happy they resisted the buyout by Microsoft. > Matrix looks really close, but it needs ALOT of love. Matrix is just a protocol. Clients competing with Discord would be things like Element. https://element.io/ https://element.io/ It's no Discord (which itself is no WLM, by the way -- rip to oldschool fat clients which had even less of a business model and whose features you can't have at all or have to pay for now), but I sorely hope it or something open source gets there one day.
karaterobot 2y ago
I've been hosting a Mattermost server as an invite-only chat board for about six years. Slack is the direct comp. Mattermost is not immune to being enshittified either, but at least I get some warning: I can read the patch notes before updating the server, and when I see they've turned fully evil, I just won't upgrade the server, and we can start looking for an escape route before the clients break. Since I own the server, I have some confidence I'm the only person who can possibly read the user data too. That is to say, I know that I won't do it, whereas I believe Discord and Slack would.
eTomte 2y ago
I'm a big fan of Matrix, and run a small homeserver for my family in friends. But if you really want to explore the frontiers peer to peer seems really intriguing because you don't need any server. https://tox.chat/ https://tox.chat/ just to name one.
- eTomte 2y ago
  Quiet, Briar, and Keet are some other p2p chats
thorncorona 2y ago
Been following Mikoto[https://github.com/mikotoIO/mikoto https://github.com/mikotoIO/mikoto] which seems like a Discord replacement on steroids.
NoboruWataya 2y ago
I understand and sympathise, but Discord is one service I just stayed away from because I could see the enshittification coming a mile off. And I'm disappointed every time I see an open source project house its community on Discord. I hoped that people would learn from the painful experience with Reddit's enshittification but apparently not.
Stephen304 2y ago
Revolt's UI looks super nice, I just wish it was connected to Matrix on the backend so I could use it with all the communities I participate in on matrix.

shrimp_emoji 2y ago

I'm just happy they resisted the buyout by Microsoft. > Matrix looks really close, but it needs ALOT of love. Matrix is just a protocol. Clients competing with Discord would be things like Element. https://element.io/ https://element.io/ It's no Discord (which itself is no WLM, by the way -- rip to oldschool fat clients which had even less of a business model and whose features you can't have at all or have to pay for now), but I sorely hope it or something open source gets there one day.

karaterobot 2y ago

I've been hosting a Mattermost server as an invite-only chat board for about six years. Slack is the direct comp. Mattermost is not immune to being enshittified either, but at least I get some warning: I can read the patch notes before updating the server, and when I see they've turned fully evil, I just won't upgrade the server, and we can start looking for an escape route before the clients break. Since I own the server, I have some confidence I'm the only person who can possibly read the user data too. That is to say, I know that I won't do it, whereas I believe Discord and Slack would.

eTomte 2y ago

I'm a big fan of Matrix, and run a small homeserver for my family in friends. But if you really want to explore the frontiers peer to peer seems really intriguing because you don't need any server. https://tox.chat/ https://tox.chat/ just to name one.

eTomte 2y ago
Quiet, Briar, and Keet are some other p2p chats

thorncorona 2y ago

Been following Mikoto[https://github.com/mikotoIO/mikoto https://github.com/mikotoIO/mikoto] which seems like a Discord replacement on steroids.

NoboruWataya 2y ago

I understand and sympathise, but Discord is one service I just stayed away from because I could see the enshittification coming a mile off. And I'm disappointed every time I see an open source project house its community on Discord. I hoped that people would learn from the painful experience with Reddit's enshittification but apparently not.

Stephen304 2y ago

Revolt's UI looks super nice, I just wish it was connected to Matrix on the backend so I could use it with all the communities I participate in on matrix.