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I can understand anyone who gets angry and aggressive when you consider all the shit that is going wrong at the same time.

SoftTalker 2y ago
Shit is always going wrong, that's the perspective that many seem to be lacking.
- atmanactive 2y ago
  Amen to that.
- add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
  Is there a law of the universe that there's a fixed amount of bad at any time? What accounts for the prevention of things actually worsening, such that we write off attempts to analyze it?
  - SoftTalker 2y ago
    Things are really pretty good, if you look at history. It's been worse. A lot worse.
    - add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
      Which is it, things have always been the same amount of bad so it's not worth discussion, or things have been much worse and could again be much worse so preventing another bad period isn't worth discussion?
      - kjkjadksj 2y ago
        Things are bad, still bad, and are also better too. For example many are still financially unstable, but there is little risk today to losing a village to barbarian incursions.
        zer00eyz 2y ago
        >>> but there is little risk today to losing a village to barbarian incursions. Well shucks Bill the barbarians came in and raped and pillaged again. They did what to your wife... They took mine and the kids... Yea we should probably be more broken up about this but we're fuckin dead. 200 years ago regardless of what color your skin was there is a chance slavery was an option for you... You live in absolute calm, and opulence compared to any other point in human history.
      - SoftTalker 2y ago
        There is always "bad" if you go looking for it. Not saying it's not worth discussion, but I think the "rage" that is the subject of TFA can be at least partly addressed by some broader perspective and understanding that things, overall, are better than at most times in human history. Rage doesn't really solve any problems. It's a self-centered, infantile reaction: something is making ME angry and I'M going to throw a fit in response because I don't know what else to do. I'm not saying "shrug; things have been worse" is the alternative, but it might help people channel their desire for change to more effective outlets, and to realize that eye-popping rage is an out-of-proportion response to the slight offense that was just experienced.
      - drewcoo 2y ago
        Is the glass half full or half empty? Completely full but half air? Twice as much volume as needed? Is the correct half of the glass full? Is the glass even actually made of glass? So many questions!
P_I_Staker 2y ago
The point is that these things have improved more than ever, yet people as angry as ever. Although, I'd argue that some of this is noticing the utility, similar to the scientific method. By getting angry people noticed injustices and demand change. There are many injustices in life. We handle them by first getting mad. Run to the window, stick your head out, and yell: "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore".

SoftTalker 2y ago

Shit is always going wrong, that's the perspective that many seem to be lacking.

atmanactive 2y ago
Amen to that.
add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
Is there a law of the universe that there's a fixed amount of bad at any time? What accounts for the prevention of things actually worsening, such that we write off attempts to analyze it?
- SoftTalker 2y ago
  Things are really pretty good, if you look at history. It's been worse. A lot worse.
  - add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
    Which is it, things have always been the same amount of bad so it's not worth discussion, or things have been much worse and could again be much worse so preventing another bad period isn't worth discussion?
    - kjkjadksj 2y ago
      Things are bad, still bad, and are also better too. For example many are still financially unstable, but there is little risk today to losing a village to barbarian incursions.
      - zer00eyz 2y ago
        >>> but there is little risk today to losing a village to barbarian incursions. Well shucks Bill the barbarians came in and raped and pillaged again. They did what to your wife... They took mine and the kids... Yea we should probably be more broken up about this but we're fuckin dead. 200 years ago regardless of what color your skin was there is a chance slavery was an option for you... You live in absolute calm, and opulence compared to any other point in human history.
    - SoftTalker 2y ago
      There is always "bad" if you go looking for it. Not saying it's not worth discussion, but I think the "rage" that is the subject of TFA can be at least partly addressed by some broader perspective and understanding that things, overall, are better than at most times in human history. Rage doesn't really solve any problems. It's a self-centered, infantile reaction: something is making ME angry and I'M going to throw a fit in response because I don't know what else to do. I'm not saying "shrug; things have been worse" is the alternative, but it might help people channel their desire for change to more effective outlets, and to realize that eye-popping rage is an out-of-proportion response to the slight offense that was just experienced.
    - drewcoo 2y ago
      Is the glass half full or half empty? Completely full but half air? Twice as much volume as needed? Is the correct half of the glass full? Is the glass even actually made of glass? So many questions!

P_I_Staker 2y ago

The point is that these things have improved more than ever, yet people as angry as ever. Although, I'd argue that some of this is noticing the utility, similar to the scientific method. By getting angry people noticed injustices and demand change. There are many injustices in life. We handle them by first getting mad. Run to the window, stick your head out, and yell: "I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore".