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M4 near 4000/15000 in Geekbench 6
- nxobject 3y agoWould thermal throttling be happening during a benchmark as well (M4 currently only being shipped on an iPad and all that?)
- ents 3y agoCan't wait to get this in a computer that can use that amount of power.
- asp_hornet 3y agoWhy cant the mac use it?
- yubiox 3y agoI think m4 is ipad only right now.
- asp_hornet 3y agoOh wow. That’s crazy overkill
- MBCook 3y agoYeah that’s how they announced it. Surprised a lot of people. There was a rumor from Mark German but it seems wild they would do that. They did. But you can be sure it will be in the Mac line as they announce the next updates.
- boppo1 3y ago/r/ipad is very shoulder-shrug about the announcement. We've been asking for better software at least since 2020.
- throwaway5959 3y agohopefully will be resolved in a month.
- klipklop 3y agoProbably just random AI features rather than what you want, being able to run Mac OS apps.
- throwaway5959 3y agoYou gotta let that go. It’s just not going to happen.
- ivanvanderbyl 3y agoWith the new frameworks in ios17 it’s clear that Apple is slowly converging on providing the tools for easily compiling for Mac and iPad from the same codebase.
- nxobject 3y agoIIRC, Apple likes to use the iPad Pro to introduce shiny new technological features that may or may not end up in Apple's other products. (mini-LED HDR and 120/variable Hz display refreshcomes to mind.)
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- sva_ 3y agoProbably because it is a passively cooled tablet ...
- a_vanderbilt 3y agoI've been using an M2 Mini for a while now, and this would definitely get me to upgrade. It's finally a worthy upgrade.
- sva_ 3y agoI'm curious how much of this is actually due to its raw compute capacities, and what can be attributed to memory/storage speeds (because geekbench results vary quite a bit if you change RAM/SSD). Also, in how far is the iOS ARM score comparable to, say, Linux x86.
- aurareturn 3y agoI doubt GB results change based on RAM/SSD.
- sixothree 3y agoHow would RAM _not_ be a factor? You can't do file compression without using memory.
- clircle 3y agoIs that good?
- tmaly 3y agoCame here to ask the same thing. I don’t have enough context on this score.
- FlagsAreFun 3y agoThe current top results for single core performance are ~3,100 so it is, on paper, a substantial gain. The M3 in the iMac achieves around 3,053. However, Geekbench is not that great (imo) so it does not necessarily indicate what you can expect overall performance to be or improve by between CPUs.
- aurareturn 3y agoGB5 highly correlates with SPEC, which is the industry standard in CPU benchmarking. The team at Nuvia, before they were acquired by Qualcomm, did the analysis: https://medium.com/silicon-reimagined/performance-delivered-a-new-way-part-2-geekbench-versus-spec-4ddac45dcf03 https://medium.com/silicon-reimagined/performance-delivered-...
- luyu_wu 3y agoGB6 though is known (at least in the Chinese tech space) to heavily bias towards Apple chips in their synthetics.
- fh9302 3y agoCan you share evidence of "heavy bias" towards Apple in GB6?
- luyu_wu 3y agoHeya! Sorry, I would've added some links but I was on mobile and still am. As I hinted at, this is mostly coming from anecdotal wisdom I've heard. The hardest evidence seems to be Apple's chips increasing more (10-20%) in GB6 vs GB5 when compared to how much other manufacturers such as QLC and INTL increased. As another comment said, GB5 is well known to be quite accurate with SPEC (industry standard), thus this discrepancy with GB6 and GB5 is a bit concerning. Of course synthetics are always skewed (sometimes because a chipmaker tries, sometimes not), most famously Cinebench which has lost most credubility for favoring SIMD perf far too much. Also might be worth it to check out the top comment to see an example of how a choice can bias syncthetics but not real-world.
- leo150 3y agoWhat's the M3 score?
- mycall 3y agohttps://browser.geekbench.com/search?q=Mac15%2C12 https://browser.geekbench.com/search?q=Mac15%2C12
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- steveBK123 3y agoThat's 33% better single core than M3 Max MBP, or 2x my M1 Max Mac Studio.
- perihelions 3y agoHere's lists of related things in table formats, https://browser.geekbench.com/ios_devices/ipad https://browser.geekbench.com/ios_devices/ipad ("iPad Benchmarks") https://browser.geekbench.com/mac-benchmarks https://browser.geekbench.com/mac-benchmarks ("Mac Benchmarks")
- sgerenser 3y agoThe increase over M3 is almost entirely due to increase in clock speed, and the effect of Geekbench 6.3 supporting SME for a small subset of tests, which leads to those tests running ~2x faster on M4. The actual IPC increase on general purpose code is small, around 3%. Apparently Apple has added SME to the M4 cores, which is cool, but makes comparison to previous cores a bit suspect unless your specific application can actually benefit from SME. Source: https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/apple-silicon-soc-thread.2587205/page-270#post-41207081 https://forums.anandtech.com/threads/apple-silicon-soc-threa...
- aurareturn 3y agoThere are only two possibilities: 1. Apple changed the design of its cores to achieve higher clock speeds without raising power. In other words, they deliberately decided to alter the design to get these results. 2. N3E is going to be a legendary TSMC node. Could be a little bit of both.
- fh9302 3y agoIf your compare the Geekbench 5 results there is an approximately 8% IPC improvement. Geekbench 5 does not use SME.
- 7e 3y agoGeekbench single core is up 44% over the M2 iPad. Don’t compare higher TDP chips with lower TDP chips. https://nanoreview.net/en/soc-compare/apple-m4-ipad-vs-apple-m2-ipad#benchmarks https://nanoreview.net/en/soc-compare/apple-m4-ipad-vs-apple...