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I rewatched Ghost in the Shell recently and I was struck by how poorly it aged. Its animation holds up but its story felt weaker than I remembered. Like the dir
by chambers 2y ago
I rewatched Ghost in the Shell recently and I was struck by how poorly it aged. Its animation holds up but its story felt weaker than I remembered. Like the director reached for something deep, couldn't get ahold of it, and then covered his tracks behind wordy philosophy.
- webdoodle 2y agoI like to watch it with the subtitltes and dubbing. The dubbing is usually so dumbed down as to make it a completely different show.
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- maxglute 2y ago>director reached for something deep, couldn't get ahold of it Translation/writing/dub wasn't very strong at the time, I can see how ppl feel now (and felt at the time) the headiness/philosophizng was filler for robot tanks and augment porn, but it was all there in the source manga by Shirow. IMO reaching for something deep about is what the series is all about, just explored more competently in shows like SAC where they had many hours to deep dwelve into many subjects.
- jajko 2y agoTo watch some classic in anything but original language is proper insult to the source and always subpar experience. Would you watch say Bicycle thieves with some yeager-speak variant too? I know 0 japanese but never ever watched any of their produce in anything but japanese with eng subs. Even though EN is not my primary language but one I grok easily without subs needed. Sure, people are lazy and have tons of excuses, but they are just that. If you(anybody) couldnt otherwise as a kid, do yourself a favor and re-experience it again in better form.
- thfuran 2y agoBut the English subs are the translation. You're going to need to learn Japanese to experience it in the original language.
- p_l 2y agoThe original manga delivers it better because... ... Shirow filled in gaps between panels with tons and tons of notes, discussing details, sometimes pointing to source material, etc. One of the worst things about it is that none of the GitS 1.0, 1.5 and 2.0 come with bibliography section - they need it.
- ranger207 2y agoGhost in the Shell was one of the first animes I saw, but while I quickly switched from dubs to subs, I only rewatched GitS subbed fairly recently. The subtitles are far better than the dubbed audio, and I'd encourage anyone who has only seen it dubbed to attempt watching it subbed instead
- BLKNSLVR 2y agoJust like DNS Always subs!
- mejutoco 2y agoWhat do you think about the matrix (the movie)?
- Der_Einzige 2y agoI don't understand this at all. It's a story about model merging. The stuff in that movie is more pertinent than ever!
- marci 2y agoThe story of how MajorMeat/Phantom-Dense-XXb-fp64 and a 2501Silicon/MoE-XXb-64bit finetuned with the Whole-Internet Dataset frankenmerged.
- FranOntanaya 2y agoI never felt it was any different. The 95 movie was always the more mystical take, for story the SAC series was better, specially 2nd GIG.
- jwells89 2y agoSAC/Second GIG were a rare case of the entire production firing on all cylinders. Even its English dub was leagues better than the average (and IME, somewhat necessary for those who can’t understand Japanese; even as a subtitle watcher of 20+ years I sometimes have trouble following subs in SAC because the dialogue is so dense and technical). Shows like that don’t show up often.
- sbarre 2y agoHow old were you when you first saw it? I know when I go back to movies that "blew my mind" when I was a teenager or in my early 20s, now 30 years later, they're rarely as incredible as I remember them being.. I'm older, wiser and with more life experience, and it's therefore much harder to "blow my mind" as they say..
- dimator 2y agoFor this reason, I prefer not to rewatch movies that really touched me when I was younger. I would rather they hold that place in my heart unchallenged. I'm sort of defending my younger, wide-eyed self.
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