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The comment you are replying to is ridiculous. Frankly by engaging I perpetuate ridiculousness and I should know better. That said, to some reasonable approxim
by kasey_junk 2y ago
The comment you are replying to is ridiculous. Frankly by engaging I perpetuate ridiculousness and I should know better.
That said, to some reasonable approximation even the most militant pro Palestinian campus protests didn’t threaten any ones safety. In nearly every case the danger came from reactionary protests. Which is completely predictable if you are a campus safety officer!
- tptacek 2y agoI think I agree with all of this, including the ridiculousness. We all have a problem.
- kasey_junk 2y agoWe only have a problem if we agree with the contention that kids protesting genocide are some sort of chaos agent. They aren’t! They’re just college kids. Sleeping rough. Temporarily.
- tptacek 2y agoI don't know what "chaos agent" means, but the problem I'm referring to is us all commenting on this thread. I'm confident we agree more than we disagree about all of this stuff.
- rendall 2y ago> I'm confident we agree more than we disagree about all of this stuff. I do think we all want Palestinians to live peaceful and prosperous lives. Despite what many anti-Zionists believe, Israel would like that for Palestinians too. The fundamental question is, does Israel get to exist as a state? If you believe yes, then congratulations, you are a Zionist! If you believe no, and if you're not struggling intellectually with the practical consequences of the end of the Israeli state to the Israeli people, really walking through it with concern, then you court genocide. There isn't really much leeway, there.
- runarberg 2y agoThis is the second time today I hear this word used, and it is only 07:45 here. The other time was House Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries describing Marjory Taylor Greene and “extreme MAGA Republicans” as “Chaos Agents”.
- rendall 2y ago> We only have a problem if we agree with the contention that kids protesting genocide are some sort of chaos agent. Logically, they are, though. They are impervious to logical argument that it is not a genocide. Their only evidence, ultimately, is Hamas' "trust me, bro" and their own presumption that Israel is evil. If people throw the word "genocide" around without second thought out question and cannot accept any mitigating argument, they are not helping. So, yes, chaos agents and no, not just "college students sleeping rough".
- rendall 2y ago> The comment you are replying to is ridiculous. Frankly by engaging I perpetuate ridiculousness and I should know better. This is against the community guidelines. With over 13k karma points, you know better. I hesitate to ask, but pretend for a moment that I am an earnest rationalist who respects logical arguments and lets truth lead to conclusions even if I am not happy with those conclusions. Can you, striving to minimize emotionalism or logical fallacy, walk through in concise points what specifically is "ridiculous"?
- tptacek 2y agoI took zero offense from his comment; its spirit was clear. I agree with him: it is ridiculous that were are frolicking in this rotted carcass of a thread.