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A general rule for life is that companies making a big deal about military grade encryption or about how they are affiliated with Nordic countries are scams.
by foobiekr 2y ago
A general rule for life is that companies making a big deal about military grade encryption or about how they are affiliated with Nordic countries are scams.
- codetrotter 2y agoYeah. But Mullvad VPN, based in Sweden, is an actual good one.
- pests 2y agoMigadu for email hosting is amazing as well, also Sweden I beleive.
- ChymeraXYZ 2y agoMigadu is Swiss
- prmoustache 2y agoWhy do people keep mistaking Sweden and Switzerland?
- short_sells_poo 2y agoPeople confuse Switzerland and Swaziland and those two aren't even on the same continent :)
- thenthenthen 2y agoSomething something Austria
- pests 2y agoMy mistake, I did know they were one of the two. I should have double checked. In general I know the difference between the two just forgot which Migadu was based on.
- froddd 2y agoCan you expand on that? Specifically the affiliation with Nordic countries? I’m a Nord VPN customer, I’d quite like to know more — may help inform any future decision on renewing or even staying with them.
- sigmoid10 2y agoIn general, Nordic countries are known for their extensive privacy laws, which in theory would make it harder for law enforcement to gain access to your traffic (and with a court order it is very easy to decloak your VPN traffic). However, as all Nordic countries are part of the Schengen Area, they are bound by European laws - and their enforcement. When Europol started cracking down on VPN providers that didn't comply, NordVPN (and all others who wanted to remain in the European market) were forced to admit [1] that they do comply with law enforcement orders. Today, all VPNs that you can legally buy are worthless in the aspects they advertise to you. You neither get extra security through encryption when browsing the web (https is already good enough for public wifi) nor actual privacy from your own government. There is exactly one use case for public commercial VPNs these days: If you want to easily access the internet from a different location to bypass geoblocking. But many big services like Netflix have started to simply block or otherwise limit access from traffic that comes from big VPN provider IP ranges, so even that use-case is becoming more worthless every year. [1] https://www.pcmag.com/news/nordvpn-actually-we-do-comply-with-law-enforcement-data-requests https://www.pcmag.com/news/nordvpn-actually-we-do-comply-wit...
- stavros 2y agoEven Mullvad?
- actionfromafar 2y agoMullvad complies, but they go out of their way to keep very little information. If you don't have the information in the first place, you can't surrender it.
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- berniedurfee 2y agoOr more generally, marketing budget and trustworthiness tend to be inversely proportional.