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There's no way you're getting a machine for $40/month. :-) Did you mean a dedicated VM or VPS? (I have a bunch of actual dedicated machines with different pro

There's no way you're getting a machine for $40/month. :-) Did you mean a dedicated VM or VPS? (I have a bunch of actual dedicated machines with different providers, and this would save me a lot of money.) (Edit: holy moly those prices are fantastic!)

distantsounds 2y ago
OVH and Hetzner have offerings at that price range. you can use a tool like serverhunter.com to find all sorts of economically-priced servers.
- matsz 2y ago
  Yep, I'm renting two servers from Hetzner; have one in Germany and another in Finland. Both cheap (€40/month) and over the few years I've been using their services, I have nothing to complain about.
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- Scarbutt 2y ago
  Does OVH asks for passport verification too, like Hetzner?
  - HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
    Why would they ask for a passport? Many people don't even have one.
    - Scarbutt 2y ago
      The worst part is they ask for it after you have enter your credit card details. Maybe they have policies per geographic region for this.
javchz 2y ago
OVH's so you start and server4you offer dedicated machines for around that price. For personal projects they work great
dinvlad 2y ago
Yeah, Hetzner has 20 vCPU 64GB RAM i5-13500 servers for $40/mo: https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-ex/ https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-ex/ This is ~10x cheaper than the closest AWS option, and without the extra fees. Also of note that Hetzner is profitable, which means AWS has been operating at an insane markup.
- thorncorona 2y ago
  > Also of note that Hetzner is profitable, which means AWS has been operating at an insane markup. You can also evidence of this on their 10-Q :^)
  - ikiris 2y ago
    If you think offering a cloud service is at all the same as offering someone a box in a rack, I invite you to compete in the space.
    - dinvlad 2y ago
      Hetzner does have a cloud VPS option, which is still very affordable: https://www.hetzner.com/cloud https://www.hetzner.com/cloud This is pretty heads-to-heads with EC2, in terms of how it works behind the scenes.
      - ikiris 2y ago
        So go with hetzner?
        dinvlad 2y ago
        Already do :-)
    - TacticalCoder 2y ago
      It's more than a box in a rack. These providers do actively monitor and fix these boxen. They can all be rebooted remotely as if you physically hit the button, you've got interfaces to access the machine as if you were logging in physically with a DB-9/RS232/ethernet/whatever console, etc. It's not just "space in a rack and you deal with the servers yourself and you come to fix them if they break". These companies know what they're doing.
throp58fg9 2y ago
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toast0 2y ago
I've got a dedicated machine for $30/month. It's ancient, a xeon L5640 with 16 GB ram, and 1 TB spinning disk, but it's dedicated and it works great. Well actually, the first one stopped working well, and I got a replacement with double those specs for the same price; and the second one is working great. I also run with full disk encryption, because I don't trust their opsec on wiping drives, so that's a bit of a hassle to reboots, I have to get a console with IPMI and put in the disk password, although I saw something [1] last night that inspires me to consider the possibility of automation. I recommend shopping at https://lowendbox.com/ https://lowendbox.com/ and https://lowendtalk.com/categories/offers https://lowendtalk.com/categories/offers [1] https://github.com/emtiu/freebsd-outerbase https://github.com/emtiu/freebsd-outerbase
eddd-ddde 2y ago
Also a dedicated VM is /literally/ a dedicated machine. It's in the name!
- jameshart 2y ago
  A dedicated virtual machine is a kind of dedicated machine, sure. Like a private community swimming pool is a kind of private swimming pool.
TacticalCoder 2y ago
> There's no way you're getting a machine for $40/month. :-) Oh you can! I've got several dedicated servers at OVH. My absolute cheapest one is an "ECO" / Kimsufi (Kimsufi is a company which spun out of OVH then, a few years later, back into OVH) which I pay... 5 EUR / month. 6 EUR / month with VAT (so 6.5 USD per month). Sure, it's not beefy at that price: an Atom N2800 with 4 GB or RAM but it is a dedicated server with its own IPv4 IP (yup, there can be uses for that). I mostly use it as a jump host / reverse-ssh-with-a-known-fixed-IP thinggy. They've got great dedicated servers at very good price and they're not the only ones in that space. These can be rebooted/reinstalled remotely and they're monitored: OVH shall deal with hardware failure, if any, for you (never had any so far).
buildbot 2y ago
I'm renting a box from Hetzner - 4x 22tb HD, 2x 1.5TB NVME SSD, Ryzen 3600, 64gb ecc ram... for 100$ per month! It's nice :)

distantsounds 2y ago

OVH and Hetzner have offerings at that price range. you can use a tool like serverhunter.com to find all sorts of economically-priced servers.

matsz 2y ago
Yep, I'm renting two servers from Hetzner; have one in Germany and another in Finland. Both cheap (€40/month) and over the few years I've been using their services, I have nothing to complain about.
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Scarbutt 2y ago
Does OVH asks for passport verification too, like Hetzner?
- HeatrayEnjoyer 2y ago
  Why would they ask for a passport? Many people don't even have one.
  - Scarbutt 2y ago
    The worst part is they ask for it after you have enter your credit card details. Maybe they have policies per geographic region for this.

javchz 2y ago

OVH's so you start and server4you offer dedicated machines for around that price. For personal projects they work great

dinvlad 2y ago

Yeah, Hetzner has 20 vCPU 64GB RAM i5-13500 servers for $40/mo: https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-ex/ https://www.hetzner.com/dedicated-rootserver/matrix-ex/ This is ~10x cheaper than the closest AWS option, and without the extra fees. Also of note that Hetzner is profitable, which means AWS has been operating at an insane markup.

thorncorona 2y ago
> Also of note that Hetzner is profitable, which means AWS has been operating at an insane markup. You can also evidence of this on their 10-Q :^)
- ikiris 2y ago
  If you think offering a cloud service is at all the same as offering someone a box in a rack, I invite you to compete in the space.
  - dinvlad 2y ago
    Hetzner does have a cloud VPS option, which is still very affordable: https://www.hetzner.com/cloud https://www.hetzner.com/cloud This is pretty heads-to-heads with EC2, in terms of how it works behind the scenes.
    - ikiris 2y ago
      So go with hetzner?
      - dinvlad 2y ago
        Already do :-)
  - TacticalCoder 2y ago
    It's more than a box in a rack. These providers do actively monitor and fix these boxen. They can all be rebooted remotely as if you physically hit the button, you've got interfaces to access the machine as if you were logging in physically with a DB-9/RS232/ethernet/whatever console, etc. It's not just "space in a rack and you deal with the servers yourself and you come to fix them if they break". These companies know what they're doing.

throp58fg9 2y ago

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toast0 2y ago

I've got a dedicated machine for $30/month. It's ancient, a xeon L5640 with 16 GB ram, and 1 TB spinning disk, but it's dedicated and it works great. Well actually, the first one stopped working well, and I got a replacement with double those specs for the same price; and the second one is working great. I also run with full disk encryption, because I don't trust their opsec on wiping drives, so that's a bit of a hassle to reboots, I have to get a console with IPMI and put in the disk password, although I saw something [1] last night that inspires me to consider the possibility of automation. I recommend shopping at https://lowendbox.com/ https://lowendbox.com/ and https://lowendtalk.com/categories/offers https://lowendtalk.com/categories/offers [1] https://github.com/emtiu/freebsd-outerbase https://github.com/emtiu/freebsd-outerbase

eddd-ddde 2y ago

Also a dedicated VM is /literally/ a dedicated machine. It's in the name!

jameshart 2y ago
A dedicated virtual machine is a kind of dedicated machine, sure. Like a private community swimming pool is a kind of private swimming pool.

TacticalCoder 2y ago

> There's no way you're getting a machine for $40/month. :-) Oh you can! I've got several dedicated servers at OVH. My absolute cheapest one is an "ECO" / Kimsufi (Kimsufi is a company which spun out of OVH then, a few years later, back into OVH) which I pay... 5 EUR / month. 6 EUR / month with VAT (so 6.5 USD per month). Sure, it's not beefy at that price: an Atom N2800 with 4 GB or RAM but it is a dedicated server with its own IPv4 IP (yup, there can be uses for that). I mostly use it as a jump host / reverse-ssh-with-a-known-fixed-IP thinggy. They've got great dedicated servers at very good price and they're not the only ones in that space. These can be rebooted/reinstalled remotely and they're monitored: OVH shall deal with hardware failure, if any, for you (never had any so far).

buildbot 2y ago

I'm renting a box from Hetzner - 4x 22tb HD, 2x 1.5TB NVME SSD, Ryzen 3600, 64gb ecc ram... for 100$ per month! It's nice :)