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I think it might be too late. I know it's a popular game, but this really killed its momentum.

by all2 2y ago

ok_dad 2y ago
Nah, everyone still loves the game and the studio, so I think it'll be okay. In the future, though, they will be less likely to buy a Sony published game. It was all Sony with this decision, and the studio was publicly upset and in some opposition to what was happening. Personally, I think we need: 1) Data protection laws so it isn't profitable anymore to attach useless accounts to games or make games online-only for a similar reason. 2) Consumer laws so that if a change happened with a digital product that removed a feature or made the product worse in some way that they'd have to offer refunds for users. Those two things would go a long way in today's digital world. Perhaps there could be an omnibus bill to enshrine these ideas into law, and maybe a few others like net neutrality and dare I say some law to prevent cloud providers from holding your data hostage for extreme outbound transfer fees.
- tstrimple 2y ago
  Yes. I think this just reinforces the DEMOCRACY message.
senectus1 2y ago
nah, its already getting reviews flipped. It'll come back.
- Hamuko 2y ago
  I'm seeing 82% of recent reviews being negative on Steam.
  - Dylan16807 2y ago
    Check back in 12, 24, and 48 hours.
    - Dylan16807 2y ago
      As a followup after a couple days, the 30 day "recent reviews" are up to 68% positive.
  - shoghicp 2y ago
    See recent changes already bringing score in the opposite direction https://steamdb.info/app/553850/history/?changeid=23424969 https://steamdb.info/app/553850/history/?changeid=23424969
johnnyanmac 2y ago
I've seen much worse campaigns that did not cause change that still ended up being fine in the end. Especially for entertainment, most people just want to go in and do their thing, not be a part of a long term protest/strike on a company.
topspin 2y ago
I can't argue that's it's not popular. I just can't imagine why. Watching gameplay footage it looks like any of dozens of similar games. TPS, swarming mobs, orbital strike, woohoo. Would someone tell what this has that makes it so appealing?
- r14c 2y ago
  We just love defending democracy
- Ekaros 2y ago
  Gamers really don't ask much. If those things make up fun playable game it is enough to be popular. I have understood it might be formulaic, but it is well executed. In the end you could ask same thing about any art. Music is just same notes arranged differently, sometimes with voice lines over it, instruments are mostly same. Movies, pretty much same plot points and similar characters. Same goes for TV shows and books... And all of them are popular.
- pdntspa 2y ago
  The orbital strikes are effectively unlimited in most cases. I like that this game isn't afraid to give you powerful toys. The devs balance the game around your weapons, not the other way around. Plus, general execution is top notch and the game is very well optimized; I was getting solid framerates with an i7-4790 and a 1080
  - ambicapter 2y ago
    What is "solid"? I'm dropping to 45 fps in totally pedestrian scenarios with a 2080 and Ryzen 7 3700X.
    - pdntspa 2y ago
      I would consider 45 fps "solid" for my needs. I rarely saw it dip below 30 for me That said I did see some weird framerates on my AMD system... standing on the bridge of your ship overlooking the planet tanked the framerate hard. It has a 2070 Super and a ryzen 5 3600. But that system is in the living room and used like a game console, and I find Helldivers pretty unplayable with a controller, so I dont use it much
fendy3002 2y ago
eh, just give some apologize items, cosmetics or credits, then it'll go back to be the most praised game again.
- theshrike79 2y ago
  If they hadn't forced it and instead would've gone like "Hey if you link a PSN account you get this special <Sony IP branded> item set and achievements" people would've done it willingly. Not everyone, but a good amount. Then they could've gauged the percentage of non-PSN linked players and re-evaluate. Basically Sony went with the stick and never even attempted a carrot.
- johnnyanmac 2y ago
  "let them eat cake". Honestly if they gave some reward and still kept the login it would have washed over in a week.

I think it might be too late. I know it's a popular game, but this really killed its momentum.

by all2 2y ago

I think it might be too late. I know it's a popular game, but this really killed its momentum.

Nah, everyone still loves the game and the studio, so I think it'll be okay. In the future, though, they will be less likely to buy a Sony published game. It was all Sony with this decision, and the studio was publicly upset and in some opposition to what was happening. Personally, I think we need: 1) Data protection laws so it isn't profitable anymore to attach useless accounts to games or make games online-only for a similar reason. 2) Consumer laws so that if a change happened with a digital product that removed a feature or made the product worse in some way that they'd have to offer refunds for users. Those two things would go a long way in today's digital world. Perhaps there could be an omnibus bill to enshrine these ideas into law, and maybe a few others like net neutrality and dare I say some law to prevent cloud providers from holding your data hostage for extreme outbound transfer fees.

tstrimple 2y ago
Yes. I think this just reinforces the DEMOCRACY message.

senectus1 2y ago

nah, its already getting reviews flipped. It'll come back.

Hamuko 2y ago
I'm seeing 82% of recent reviews being negative on Steam.
- Dylan16807 2y ago
  Check back in 12, 24, and 48 hours.
  - Dylan16807 2y ago
    As a followup after a couple days, the 30 day "recent reviews" are up to 68% positive.
- shoghicp 2y ago
  See recent changes already bringing score in the opposite direction https://steamdb.info/app/553850/history/?changeid=23424969 https://steamdb.info/app/553850/history/?changeid=23424969

johnnyanmac 2y ago

I've seen much worse campaigns that did not cause change that still ended up being fine in the end. Especially for entertainment, most people just want to go in and do their thing, not be a part of a long term protest/strike on a company.

topspin 2y ago

I can't argue that's it's not popular. I just can't imagine why. Watching gameplay footage it looks like any of dozens of similar games. TPS, swarming mobs, orbital strike, woohoo. Would someone tell what this has that makes it so appealing?

r14c 2y ago
We just love defending democracy
Ekaros 2y ago
Gamers really don't ask much. If those things make up fun playable game it is enough to be popular. I have understood it might be formulaic, but it is well executed. In the end you could ask same thing about any art. Music is just same notes arranged differently, sometimes with voice lines over it, instruments are mostly same. Movies, pretty much same plot points and similar characters. Same goes for TV shows and books... And all of them are popular.
pdntspa 2y ago
The orbital strikes are effectively unlimited in most cases. I like that this game isn't afraid to give you powerful toys. The devs balance the game around your weapons, not the other way around. Plus, general execution is top notch and the game is very well optimized; I was getting solid framerates with an i7-4790 and a 1080
- ambicapter 2y ago
  What is "solid"? I'm dropping to 45 fps in totally pedestrian scenarios with a 2080 and Ryzen 7 3700X.
  - pdntspa 2y ago
    I would consider 45 fps "solid" for my needs. I rarely saw it dip below 30 for me That said I did see some weird framerates on my AMD system... standing on the bridge of your ship overlooking the planet tanked the framerate hard. It has a 2070 Super and a ryzen 5 3600. But that system is in the living room and used like a game console, and I find Helldivers pretty unplayable with a controller, so I dont use it much

fendy3002 2y ago

eh, just give some apologize items, cosmetics or credits, then it'll go back to be the most praised game again.

theshrike79 2y ago
If they hadn't forced it and instead would've gone like "Hey if you link a PSN account you get this special <Sony IP branded> item set and achievements" people would've done it willingly. Not everyone, but a good amount. Then they could've gauged the percentage of non-PSN linked players and re-evaluate. Basically Sony went with the stick and never even attempted a carrot.
johnnyanmac 2y ago
"let them eat cake". Honestly if they gave some reward and still kept the login it would have washed over in a week.