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red has pretty strong connotations in some east asian cultures. just like how 13 is taboo, 4 and 7 can be taboo. these things do matter sometimes. respect matt

red has pretty strong connotations in some east asian cultures. just like how 13 is taboo, 4 and 7 can be taboo. these things do matter sometimes. respect matters.

CyberDildonics 2y ago
Show me software that's bright red due and doesn't use 4 and 7 due to 'culture'.
- Dylan16807 2y ago
  That's a big goalpost move from the original claim that meanings can be different.
  - CyberDildonics 2y ago
    No it isn't. They said UIs are different in different cultures because "red implies prosperity and vitality" so prove it. Show me some examples and evidence. Anyone can make claims based off of cliches, but when it comes time to back it up with real world examples everyone either goes silent or gets upset and makes the same claim more aggressively. Chinese historical art has a use of red due to cinnabar being believed to be healthy and that persists in a few areas like red envelopes, but 'red means prosperity in some cultures' doesn't mean their computer interfaces are different. Their stop lights are the same too. https://soft4europe-france.com/documentation2018/11-40/EN/docs/html5-changing-language.html https://soft4europe-france.com/documentation2018/11-40/EN/do...
    - Dylan16807 2y ago
      The actual claim was "UI colors can have different meanings in different cultures." I don't know about that prosperity thing, but I can give you an example that happens a lot. Some groups use red to mean stopped and green to mean moving, while others use red to mean danger and moving, and green to mean safe and stopped. This isn't directly country-related but I believe there's significant variation based on location. Oh, wait, while searching to double check that I found an example of exactly what you asked for. CJK stock market displays tend to use red for increases, while the West uses red for decreases.
      - CyberDildonics 2y ago
        I searched and I didn't see any examples of that. Oh, wait, I searched again and all I saw was the opposite. Oh, wait, I searched again and still found typical displays.
        Dylan16807 2y ago
        Here's a couple. I searched for nyse display and china stock market display. There's a lot of examples when you do those searches. https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-JH281_0708NY_M_20150708130815.jpg https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-JH281_0708NY_M_... https://c8.alamy.com/comp/A14FJ5/a-screen-with-the-market-share-prices-written-in-chinese-for-the-shanghai-A14FJ5.jpg https://c8.alamy.com/comp/A14FJ5/a-screen-with-the-market-sh... You can also do a text search for china red green stocks, or japan red green stocks. Bonus fun fact: If the little display on the taxi in japan is red, that means available, and green means occupied.
        CyberDildonics 2y ago
        The post I replied to talked about websites and they didn't say different colors were used in some circumstances, they literally mean different things. Why does everyone have the same colors in traffic lights (except for japan's blue lights which comes from language, not cultural significance) https://www.rd.com/article/heres-japan-blue-traffic-lights/ https://www.rd.com/article/heres-japan-blue-traffic-lights/ It's funny that this person speaks multiple languages and actually used different apps but was downvoted anyway. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40271465 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40271465
        Dylan16807 2y ago
        > The post I replied to talked about websites and they didn't say different colors were used in some circumstances, they literally mean different things. I'll quote it again. "UI colors can have different meanings in different cultures." And all the examples I gave have red meaning opposite things in user interfaces based on cultural assumptions. Off/danger. Number up/number down. Occupied/available. Websites were just one example of UI. > It's funny that this person speaks multiple languages and actually used different apps but was downvoted anyway. They said they haven't seen any. That doesn't override actual examples!

red has pretty strong connotations in some east asian cultures. just like how 13 is taboo, 4 and 7 can be taboo. these things do matter sometimes. respect matters.

CyberDildonics 2y ago

Show me software that's bright red due and doesn't use 4 and 7 due to 'culture'.

Dylan16807 2y ago
That's a big goalpost move from the original claim that meanings can be different.
- CyberDildonics 2y ago
  No it isn't. They said UIs are different in different cultures because "red implies prosperity and vitality" so prove it. Show me some examples and evidence. Anyone can make claims based off of cliches, but when it comes time to back it up with real world examples everyone either goes silent or gets upset and makes the same claim more aggressively. Chinese historical art has a use of red due to cinnabar being believed to be healthy and that persists in a few areas like red envelopes, but 'red means prosperity in some cultures' doesn't mean their computer interfaces are different. Their stop lights are the same too. https://soft4europe-france.com/documentation2018/11-40/EN/docs/html5-changing-language.html https://soft4europe-france.com/documentation2018/11-40/EN/do...
  - Dylan16807 2y ago
    The actual claim was "UI colors can have different meanings in different cultures." I don't know about that prosperity thing, but I can give you an example that happens a lot. Some groups use red to mean stopped and green to mean moving, while others use red to mean danger and moving, and green to mean safe and stopped. This isn't directly country-related but I believe there's significant variation based on location. Oh, wait, while searching to double check that I found an example of exactly what you asked for. CJK stock market displays tend to use red for increases, while the West uses red for decreases.
    - CyberDildonics 2y ago
      I searched and I didn't see any examples of that. Oh, wait, I searched again and all I saw was the opposite. Oh, wait, I searched again and still found typical displays.
      - Dylan16807 2y ago
        Here's a couple. I searched for nyse display and china stock market display. There's a lot of examples when you do those searches. https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-JH281_0708NY_M_20150708130815.jpg https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-JH281_0708NY_M_... https://c8.alamy.com/comp/A14FJ5/a-screen-with-the-market-share-prices-written-in-chinese-for-the-shanghai-A14FJ5.jpg https://c8.alamy.com/comp/A14FJ5/a-screen-with-the-market-sh... You can also do a text search for china red green stocks, or japan red green stocks. Bonus fun fact: If the little display on the taxi in japan is red, that means available, and green means occupied.
        CyberDildonics 2y ago
        The post I replied to talked about websites and they didn't say different colors were used in some circumstances, they literally mean different things. Why does everyone have the same colors in traffic lights (except for japan's blue lights which comes from language, not cultural significance) https://www.rd.com/article/heres-japan-blue-traffic-lights/ https://www.rd.com/article/heres-japan-blue-traffic-lights/ It's funny that this person speaks multiple languages and actually used different apps but was downvoted anyway. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40271465 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40271465
        Dylan16807 2y ago
        > The post I replied to talked about websites and they didn't say different colors were used in some circumstances, they literally mean different things. I'll quote it again. "UI colors can have different meanings in different cultures." And all the examples I gave have red meaning opposite things in user interfaces based on cultural assumptions. Off/danger. Number up/number down. Occupied/available. Websites were just one example of UI. > It's funny that this person speaks multiple languages and actually used different apps but was downvoted anyway. They said they haven't seen any. That doesn't override actual examples!