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UI colors can be racist? This is ideological tea-leaf reading.

AnthonyMouse 3y ago
UI colors can have different meanings in different cultures. Suppose you don't care anything for all of this political noise and you just want to make money. Do you want to use the same colors on your website in the countries where red implies danger as the ones where red implies prosperity and vitality? If it will be the same for everyone, might knowing how some large subset of the viewers will interpret it change what you choose?
- CyberDildonics 3y ago
  There is no evidence for what you are saying.
  - kanbara 3y ago
    red has pretty strong connotations in some east asian cultures. just like how 13 is taboo, 4 and 7 can be taboo. these things do matter sometimes. respect matters.
    - CyberDildonics 3y ago
      Show me software that's bright red due and doesn't use 4 and 7 due to 'culture'.
      - Dylan16807 3y ago
        That's a big goalpost move from the original claim that meanings can be different.
        CyberDildonics 3y ago
        No it isn't. They said UIs are different in different cultures because "red implies prosperity and vitality" so prove it. Show me some examples and evidence. Anyone can make claims based off of cliches, but when it comes time to back it up with real world examples everyone either goes silent or gets upset and makes the same claim more aggressively. Chinese historical art has a use of red due to cinnabar being believed to be healthy and that persists in a few areas like red envelopes, but 'red means prosperity in some cultures' doesn't mean their computer interfaces are different. Their stop lights are the same too. https://soft4europe-france.com/documentation2018/11-40/EN/docs/html5-changing-language.html https://soft4europe-france.com/documentation2018/11-40/EN/do...
        Dylan16807 3y ago
        The actual claim was "UI colors can have different meanings in different cultures." I don't know about that prosperity thing, but I can give you an example that happens a lot. Some groups use red to mean stopped and green to mean moving, while others use red to mean danger and moving, and green to mean safe and stopped. This isn't directly country-related but I believe there's significant variation based on location. Oh, wait, while searching to double check that I found an example of exactly what you asked for. CJK stock market displays tend to use red for increases, while the West uses red for decreases.
        CyberDildonics 3y ago
        I searched and I didn't see any examples of that. Oh, wait, I searched again and all I saw was the opposite. Oh, wait, I searched again and still found typical displays.
        Dylan16807 3y ago
        Here's a couple. I searched for nyse display and china stock market display. There's a lot of examples when you do those searches. https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-JH281_0708NY_M_20150708130815.jpg https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-JH281_0708NY_M_... https://c8.alamy.com/comp/A14FJ5/a-screen-with-the-market-share-prices-written-in-chinese-for-the-shanghai-A14FJ5.jpg https://c8.alamy.com/comp/A14FJ5/a-screen-with-the-market-sh... You can also do a text search for china red green stocks, or japan red green stocks. Bonus fun fact: If the little display on the taxi in japan is red, that means available, and green means occupied.
- cyberax 3y ago
  > UI colors can have different meanings in different cultures. Really? Can you provide actual examples? JFYI, I speak Russian, Ukrainian, German, and Mandarin Chinese. I've used native-written apps in all these languages, and I have not seen any significant variations in the UI color selections. I guess Mandarin Chinese is probably the best example because the red color is seen as more "festive", so it's more common in various app icons.
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Der_Einzige 3y ago
If you use black for “bad” or destructive operations and white for “good” or creative operations, you’re perpetuating literal anti-blackness.
- SV_BubbleTime 3y ago
  You aren’t fooling anyone.

UI colors can have different meanings in different cultures. Suppose you don't care anything for all of this political noise and you just want to make money. Do you want to use the same colors on your website in the countries where red implies danger as the ones where red implies prosperity and vitality? If it will be the same for everyone, might knowing how some large subset of the viewers will interpret it change what you choose?

CyberDildonics 3y ago
There is no evidence for what you are saying.
- kanbara 3y ago
  red has pretty strong connotations in some east asian cultures. just like how 13 is taboo, 4 and 7 can be taboo. these things do matter sometimes. respect matters.
  - CyberDildonics 3y ago
    Show me software that's bright red due and doesn't use 4 and 7 due to 'culture'.
    - Dylan16807 3y ago
      That's a big goalpost move from the original claim that meanings can be different.
      - CyberDildonics 3y ago
        No it isn't. They said UIs are different in different cultures because "red implies prosperity and vitality" so prove it. Show me some examples and evidence. Anyone can make claims based off of cliches, but when it comes time to back it up with real world examples everyone either goes silent or gets upset and makes the same claim more aggressively. Chinese historical art has a use of red due to cinnabar being believed to be healthy and that persists in a few areas like red envelopes, but 'red means prosperity in some cultures' doesn't mean their computer interfaces are different. Their stop lights are the same too. https://soft4europe-france.com/documentation2018/11-40/EN/docs/html5-changing-language.html https://soft4europe-france.com/documentation2018/11-40/EN/do...
        Dylan16807 3y ago
        The actual claim was "UI colors can have different meanings in different cultures." I don't know about that prosperity thing, but I can give you an example that happens a lot. Some groups use red to mean stopped and green to mean moving, while others use red to mean danger and moving, and green to mean safe and stopped. This isn't directly country-related but I believe there's significant variation based on location. Oh, wait, while searching to double check that I found an example of exactly what you asked for. CJK stock market displays tend to use red for increases, while the West uses red for decreases.
        CyberDildonics 3y ago
        I searched and I didn't see any examples of that. Oh, wait, I searched again and all I saw was the opposite. Oh, wait, I searched again and still found typical displays.
        Dylan16807 3y ago
        Here's a couple. I searched for nyse display and china stock market display. There's a lot of examples when you do those searches. https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-JH281_0708NY_M_20150708130815.jpg https://s.wsj.net/public/resources/images/BN-JH281_0708NY_M_... https://c8.alamy.com/comp/A14FJ5/a-screen-with-the-market-share-prices-written-in-chinese-for-the-shanghai-A14FJ5.jpg https://c8.alamy.com/comp/A14FJ5/a-screen-with-the-market-sh... You can also do a text search for china red green stocks, or japan red green stocks. Bonus fun fact: If the little display on the taxi in japan is red, that means available, and green means occupied.
cyberax 3y ago
> UI colors can have different meanings in different cultures. Really? Can you provide actual examples? JFYI, I speak Russian, Ukrainian, German, and Mandarin Chinese. I've used native-written apps in all these languages, and I have not seen any significant variations in the UI color selections. I guess Mandarin Chinese is probably the best example because the red color is seen as more "festive", so it's more common in various app icons.

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Der_Einzige 3y ago

If you use black for “bad” or destructive operations and white for “good” or creative operations, you’re perpetuating literal anti-blackness.

SV_BubbleTime 3y ago
You aren’t fooling anyone.