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I was at the clapperboard for Orson Welles' drunk wine commercial (2021)
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- rendall 2y agoGuidelines: Please don't complain that a submission is inappropriate. If a story is spam or off-topic, flag it.
- tetris11 2y agoFun read. I will henceforth unconvincingly smack my lips and make claims about the French Riviera upon every wine I drink from now on.
- Doxin 2y agoI don't think I'll ever be able to mention the french without going "myaaaaah! the french!" again.
- b800h 2y agoBest post this morning, IMO.
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- anonymous_user9 2y agoThis parody of those outtakes is fun: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6P1ifGjvEE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A6P1ifGjvEE
- benoliver999 2y agoReminds me a bit of the Michael Caine acting class parody https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdaLhOODouI https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdaLhOODouI
- bee_rider 2y agoOh dang, I have no idea if the thing about recording the conversations from both sides and then splicing them together is real or not!
- toddmorey 2y agoYeah it’s real & one way where you can get continuity errors. I had a friend who’s job it was to carefully catalog all set objects in FileMaker Pro so he could reconstruct the parts of set that had to be torn down when moving cameras, lights, etc.
- bee_rider 2y agoOh wow. In the video, it was suggested that Caine would get in the back of other actors scenes. Of course the extent of it in the video is obviously parody. But is there anything to it? I imagine an actor could, for example, cheat a bit in the two shots; look right at the camera while they are the speaker, then just shift a little bit while the other actor is speaking, not enough to be obvious, but just enough to catch the camera with a little bit more of their face…
- TRyanMooney 2y agoThe Director and Director of Photography would immediately reposition them. It would look very awkward. What does happen often is impactful news will be delivered causing the foreground actor to turn to camera and contemplate as they rack focus from the background actor to the foreground. See also, a door slamming or an event happening just off camera. It’s an easy way to get a nice little two shot of both actors faces
- kristopolous 2y agoWe really need to figure out a way to fund online journalism that doesn't rely on the diminishing returns of digital ads. It's really getting extreme
- AlecSchueler 2y agoCould you relate this assertion back to your experience with the article at hand?
- cheschire 2y agoIf you read the article on a phone, there are at least 2 pop over ads that take half the screen, with a full screen pop over at the end. And all throughout the article there are flashy video ads that take the entire screen as you scroll. This constant attention grabbing destroys whatever narrative is being crafted.
- Luc 2y agoMay I ask why you’re not running an ad blocker?
- swayvil 2y agoBy running an ad blocker you are forcing them to create more ads, to make up their losses.
- duggan 2y agoHardly, if done correctly, you're probably improving the CTR by reducing the number of ad impressions that would never result in a click.
- bee_rider 2y agoThe goal is to eventually make ads completely unbearable for the handful of people that allow them, eventually destroying that whole toxic sector.
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- lupusreal 2y agoIf you're not using an adblocker, you're doing this to yourself.
- boomboomsubban 2y agoEven using adblock you can't scroll down two lines without running into some old dude hawking cheap wine. Not really, my adblock blocks YouTube frames too. I had to manually allow them.
- Cheer2171 2y ago> Even using adblock you can't scroll down two lines without running into some old dude hawking cheap wine. This is an article about Orson Welles (an old guy) making an infamous commercial. It is about the history of advertising. The YouTube iframe is the commercial the article is about.
- bee_rider 2y agoI’m 99% sure that was a joke
- boomboomsubban 2y agoMake it 100%, I figured detailing that I went out of my way to watch the video again would make that clear.
- sixothree 2y agoSo we should give our browsing history to a random company in the name of protection?
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- s_dev 2y agoI don't see a single ad - I'm on Firefox in the EU. Would love to post a pic and compare what we're each seeing. https://liffey.fra1.digitaloceanspaces.com/orson.pdf?X-Amz-Algorithm=AWS4-HMAC-SHA256&X-Amz-Credential=FCVCVEDZBKF2UYVZCN6A%2F20240510%2Ffra1%2Fs3%2Faws4_request&X-Amz-Date=20240510T095426Z&X-Amz-Expires=604800&X-Amz-SignedHeaders=host&X-Amz-Signature=0b2849973d7aa226ee7a790a902f7e695d6a1761c065e8d8d4ac16983790dd19 https://liffey.fra1.digitaloceanspaces.com/orson.pdf?X-Amz-A...
- db48x 2y agoI see the same lack of ads, though my ad blocker also blocks the youtube videos because Google really doesn’t need to know which news magazine I’m reading today. And technically they are ads, too.
- makingstuffs 2y agoSame, I'm just using a stock version of Brave with no ad blocking extensions/VPN ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
- okanat 2y agoBrave itself blocks ads. It is embedded into the browser called Brave Shields.
- dl9999 2y agoDid something change or am I missing something? I've used Opera, Chrome, Edge, and Arc and I didn't see any ads at all.
- boomboomsubban 2y agoTaking a sleeping pill to try to get a few hours of sleep between Las Vegas and LA puts a different spin on it. Sure, he probably shouldn't drink with his sleeping pills, but I know a fair amount of nonalcoholics that have done similar.
- Joeboy 2y agoSurely what really puts a different spin on it is that the purpose of these takes was apparently to demonstrate to the insurance company that Welles was unable to work. In that context, he put on a great (albeit method-enhanced) performance.
- ethbr1 2y ago+ the nugget that, after a few hours sleep, he later nailed it the same day
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- zwischenzug 2y agoSee also the frozen peas rant: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V14PfDDwxlE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V14PfDDwxlE And Michael Palin's hilarious 'bearded man' performances, loosely based on OW ads: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38KWQ3Cufvg&t=36 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=38KWQ3Cufvg&t=36
- OliveMate 2y agoI feel guilty for saying this but when I think of Orson Welles, instead of any of his pioneering contributions radio and cinema my mind defaults to 'muahahahh the frensch'. There's something stunning to see master of the arts act in such a way, and in the internet age it's probably his most iconic performance!
- Aloha 2y agoEven half asleep on sleeping pills, he sounded like someone who very much enjoyed the product he was hawking, which is not too bad on its own!
- kragen 2y agonot sure 'the wine for out-of-control alcoholics' is the branding paul masson was hoping for
- hinkley 2y agoRobin Williams on Johnny Carson, high as a fucking kite on coke. Hollywood did so, so much cocaine back then.
- webwielder2 2y agoThe article reveals that Welles was under the influence of a sleeping pill, but the intro states that he was “obviously drunk.”
- karaterobot 2y ago> By 3 p.m. he’d been seated, and he delivered the lines perfectly. We were done by five, getting everything we needed without overtime. I remember him grinning at the furious agency guys as he walked away from the set. Later on, after a few more commercials, they’d fire him, but I wasn’t around for that. Sounds like he combined alcohol with a sleeping pill—never a great idea—and needed to take a nap. Unprofessional, but hardly the worst thing a star has ever done on set. My favorite Orson Welles thing is this anecdote from Kenneth Tynan: > Arriving, some years ago, to deliver a lecture in a small mid-western town, he [Welles] was faced with a tiny audience of listeners and no one to introduce him. He decided to introduce himself. > “Ladies and gentlemen,” he began, “I will tell you of the highlights of my life. I am a director of plays. I am a producer of plays. I am an actor on the legitimate stage. I am a writer of motion pictures. I am a motion-picture actor. I write, direct, and act on the radio. I am a magician. I also paint and sketch, and I am a book-publisher. I am a violinist and a pianist.” Here he paused, and rested his chin on his hands, surveying the sparse congregation. “Isn’t it strange,” he said, quizzically but with clinching emphasis, “that there are so many of me—and so few of you?”
- robertlagrant 2y ago> “Ladies and gentlemen,” he began, “I will tell you of the highlights of my life. I am a director of plays. I am a producer of plays. I am an actor on the legitimate stage. I am a writer of motion pictures. I am a motion-picture actor. I write, direct, and act on the radio. I am a magician. I also paint and sketch, and I am a book-publisher. I am a violinist and a pianist.” I.... am Unicron.
- drewolbrich 2y agoTIL, Orson Welles' last movie role was playing the voice of an entire planet.
- ethbr1 2y agoThe things you learn on HN... https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transformers:_The_Movie https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Transformers:_The_Movie Dialog: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0DPW44-I3n4&t=30s https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0DPW44-I3n4&t=30s (Also, RIP days when Transformers had Gundam levels of animation budget)
- pierrebai 2y agoI have a hard time swallowing the hubris of the teller. No one was to be able to approach or chat with Orson Wells... except him, of course, who "connected" with Orson, so it was all OK and he'd launch with Orson too! But the others, these inferiors, mere crew, set extras. God, even a clapper boy could not /possibly/ do their job as they would need to get near Orson Wells!!! But him, the director, yeah, he could approach talk, whatever. He's in another classssssssss, you see...
- johtso 2y agoThis is another Orson Welles classic, outtakes from a frozen food radio commercial: https://archive.org/details/findusfoods_orsonwells https://archive.org/details/findusfoods_orsonwells
- jihadjihad 2y agoOT, but one of my favorite gems I've found on the internet is a conversation about Hamlet with Orson Welles and Peter O'Toole [0]. 0: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smMa38CZCSU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smMa38CZCSU
- bambax 2y ago> the great man needed to subject himself to work that was well beneath his talents There's this cool anecdote of Mel Brooks hiring him to be the narrator to History Of The World Part 1. Brooks paid Welles $25000 for five days of work, from 9 to 5. But Welles was done by 11:30 the first day, and it was "all perfect". So Brooks asked him what he would do with the money, and Welles said "Cuban cigars and Sevruga caviar. I would have included women but I'm getting just a little too heavy for that." He chose Sevruga because in his opinion it was just as good as Beluga, and half the price. As told by Mel Brooks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hhwp4tm6Wc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Hhwp4tm6Wc
- mzs 2y ago"I just wanted to show off my French." - Mel Brooks The GOAT doing that: https://twitter.com/JFrankensteiner/status/1787694495842152740 https://twitter.com/JFrankensteiner/status/17876944958421527...
- bambax 2y agoFrom the same Twitter account, "Orson Welles talking shit, a mega thread", very pleasant and funny: https://twitter.com/JFrankensteiner/status/1522761153822269440 https://twitter.com/JFrankensteiner/status/15227611538222694...
- cdchn 2y agoThis thread got me to buy the book "My Lunches With Orson"
- havblue 2y agoBe sure to watch the John Candy impersonation of Welles. It's a classic. https://youtu.be/eOmYEssdXg8?si=AEboh7p4LcHXnueO https://youtu.be/eOmYEssdXg8?si=AEboh7p4LcHXnueO
- bitwize 2y agoI admired Welles back when I thought the famous Paul Masson shoot was him with no more fucks to give. Now that I understand he was under the influence of a sleeping pill, slept it off, and finished the shoot perfectly in the most friendly and professional manner possible, I admire him even more. He butted heads with suits all the time, as he did with the agency personnel, but with ordinary people like the cast and crew of this shoot he was always the most affable gentleman. Towards the end of his life he said "I want to be remembered as a good guy, not a difficult genius." And man, he lived up to that.
- nickdothutton 2y agoFor those who perhaps do not know Welles, but can afford 5 minutes, I offer his live transformation into Falstaff from the Dean Martin show. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ6v7GHYDbM https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ6v7GHYDbM