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This has smelt bad for a while. Here’s a Twitter thread from January where the CEO explained why it couldn’t be an app. In it, he makes weird claims like: > by

This has smelt bad for a while. Here’s a Twitter thread from January where the CEO explained why it couldn’t be an app. In it, he makes weird claims like: > by submitting as app, you submitting all your codes to them. think about it. remember there’s one of the most popular apps you want early days on app store was called ‘flashlight’ now see what happens? apple just incorporated that feature in iOS. so are building apps sustainable to a startup? maybe not. — https://twitter.com/jessechenglyu/status/1745555882291646689 https://twitter.com/jessechenglyu/status/1745555882291646689 I think it’s pretty clear that Apple didn’t need to plagiarise some dude’s flashlight app code to build their own version, and you don’t submit your code to Apple/Google anyway.

woleium 3y ago
But you do have to submit your signing keys to apple now, iirc :(
- dagmx 3y ago
  You’re thinking of the Google Play Store. https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/9842756?hl=en https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answ...
bryancoxwell 3y ago
Love the idea that it was the submission of the flashlight app’s source that enabled Apple to build that feature into the OS. Also love that it completely ignores that the flashlight being part of the OS is significantly better UX than installing an app to do the same thing.
redwall_hp 3y ago
Pluralizing code or code as a verb is always a red flag.
- infinitezest 3y ago
  Seems more likely that its an artifact of being the guy's second language.
- blackguardx 3y ago
  Pluralizing code always sounded weird to me, but I think it was more common in certain regions and timeframes. Code as a verb seems pretty common though.
- nmfisher 3y ago
  That's an English-as-a-foreign-language thing. Particularly from Asia.
- iamleppert 3y ago
  +1000%
- gravescale 2y ago
  One of my favourite pieces of trivia is that the "nuclear codes" that were so often the subject of some Cold War plot were not necessarily codes as in launch codes, but were/are simulation programs, which were, in aggregate, "codes" (though I'm not 100% clear if a single simulation is a single "code"). Which makes a lot more sense, because simulations would help development, and launch codes would be useless almost immediately as they would change [1]. The IAEA still calls them "codes": https://nucleus.iaea.org/sites/oncore/SitePages/Home.aspx https://nucleus.iaea.org/sites/oncore/SitePages/Home.aspx [1] unlike the Permissive Action Link code locks on some weapons, which were deliberately set to all zeroes for decades.
felipemesquita 3y ago
As if the issue with the iOS flashlight apps was that their developers did not instead hire teenage engineering to make an android box with a LED
croes 3y ago
Ask the creators of f.lux https://justgetflux.com/news/2016/01/14/apple.html https://justgetflux.com/news/2016/01/14/apple.html
- StrLght 3y ago
  Did Apple steal something from them other than idea? f.lux isn’t (and wasn’t?) open source and never had an iOS app in AppStore, AFAIK they had a custom Cydia repo for that.
  - croes 2y ago
    It was possible per side loading https://justgetflux.com/sideload/ https://justgetflux.com/sideload/
thih9 3y ago
So weird. Especially since Apple will build their LLM based AI assistant regardless of rabbit being in the app store or not.

woleium 3y ago

But you do have to submit your signing keys to apple now, iirc :(

dagmx 3y ago
You’re thinking of the Google Play Store. https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answer/9842756?hl=en https://support.google.com/googleplay/android-developer/answ...

bryancoxwell 3y ago

Love the idea that it was the submission of the flashlight app’s source that enabled Apple to build that feature into the OS. Also love that it completely ignores that the flashlight being part of the OS is significantly better UX than installing an app to do the same thing.

redwall_hp 3y ago

Pluralizing code or code as a verb is always a red flag.

infinitezest 3y ago
Seems more likely that its an artifact of being the guy's second language.
blackguardx 3y ago
Pluralizing code always sounded weird to me, but I think it was more common in certain regions and timeframes. Code as a verb seems pretty common though.
nmfisher 3y ago
That's an English-as-a-foreign-language thing. Particularly from Asia.
iamleppert 3y ago
+1000%
gravescale 2y ago
One of my favourite pieces of trivia is that the "nuclear codes" that were so often the subject of some Cold War plot were not necessarily codes as in launch codes, but were/are simulation programs, which were, in aggregate, "codes" (though I'm not 100% clear if a single simulation is a single "code"). Which makes a lot more sense, because simulations would help development, and launch codes would be useless almost immediately as they would change [1]. The IAEA still calls them "codes": https://nucleus.iaea.org/sites/oncore/SitePages/Home.aspx https://nucleus.iaea.org/sites/oncore/SitePages/Home.aspx [1] unlike the Permissive Action Link code locks on some weapons, which were deliberately set to all zeroes for decades.

felipemesquita 3y ago

As if the issue with the iOS flashlight apps was that their developers did not instead hire teenage engineering to make an android box with a LED

croes 3y ago

Ask the creators of f.lux https://justgetflux.com/news/2016/01/14/apple.html https://justgetflux.com/news/2016/01/14/apple.html

StrLght 3y ago
Did Apple steal something from them other than idea? f.lux isn’t (and wasn’t?) open source and never had an iOS app in AppStore, AFAIK they had a custom Cydia repo for that.
- croes 2y ago
  It was possible per side loading https://justgetflux.com/sideload/ https://justgetflux.com/sideload/

thih9 3y ago

So weird. Especially since Apple will build their LLM based AI assistant regardless of rabbit being in the app store or not.