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You dont understand communism then, and didnt grow up under such regime. Most people involved in such projects were far from what you can call communists, not
by jajko 3y ago
You dont understand communism then, and didnt grow up under such regime.
Most people involved in such projects were far from what you can call communists, not involved with regine, not members of the party (or if they were it was just to be allowed certain positions in the system, literal ticking checkbox on the requirements list), some even secretly hating it and conspiring against it. This reductionism is unnecessary and outright incorrect.
One can claim it was invented in communist East Germany (although the official name was literally German democratic republic), and thats about it.
You also slap 'invented by american capitalists' onto every single invention coming out of US of past 250 years?
- mfru 3y agoit is wild how often people will respond with red scare rhetoric once the scary c-word drops.
- tomohawk 3y agoMass killings by communist governments are a thing. And that's just one of the bad things about communism. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_regimes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mass_killings_under_communist_...
- olddustytrail 3y agoMass killings by capitalist governments are also a thing. Why are you ignoring those?
- snowpid 3y agoPlease tell me more about capitalist gulags.
- butterknife 3y agoIf you insist https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Americans https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internment_of_Japanese_Ameri...
- olddustytrail 3y agoYou've had another response but why would you restrict it to gulags? The genocide of the native American peoples seems a more obvious example: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_genocide_in_the_United_States https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Native_American_genocide_in_...
- forgetfreeman 3y ago[flagged]
- flohofwoe 3y ago> is evidenced by their using the term as a synonym for authoritarianism. You can't deny the fact though that all socialist (or what people from beyond the pond like to call "communist") countries turned towards authoritarianism on their "journey" of eventually achieving communism (even if some of those countries might have started off with the best intentions to actually improve things). And it happened with such regularity that it cannot be explained away with "no true scotsman (pardon: communist)" arguments.
- forgetfreeman 3y agoOh if anything I think you're being too timid with your critique here so let's say the quiet parts out loud. The movement was coopted by sociopaths and used as cover to promote naked authoritarianism. This doesn't excuse failure to grasp the original stated goals or (worse) trying to utilize red scare propaganda to handwave past capitalism's obvious flaws.
- takeda 3y agoCommunism problem is that it goes together with authoritarianism and corruption. Yes, you can get both of those things with capitalism, just look at Russia, but looks like they are more likely to happen with communism. Authoritarianism is responsible for many people's deaths, while corruption is why things were so bad that it pushed for invention of this. The reason why the glass is not popular right now is because we as consumers are perfectly fine with this. We let companies get away with it instead of voting with our wallets. Nearly all of us are guilty purchasing smart phones that won't last longer than 2 years, pre-paying for games when companies frequently stiffed us that way. Almost no one puts time to research which companies produce quality product so such manufacturers frequently go out of business.
- throw10920 3y agoIt isn't that wild, really, that people who have even the most basic awareness of history are concerned about the spread of the single most destructive ideology in all of history.
- p_l 3y ago> You also slap 'invented by american capitalists' onto every single invention coming out of US of past 250 years Try criticising capitalism and you'll soon encounter exactly that rhetoric, even for things that exist only thanks to government direct action (the most socialist org in USA, the Department of Defense, is directly and indirectly responsible for huge part of innovation that people assign to "capitalism" despite it having little to do with it)