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CBMC: C bounded model checker (2021)
- quotemstr 3y agoWouldn't this project be more usefully done at the LLVM IR level so we could plug in any existing LLVM frontend and gain full support for language features like C++ templates?
- flohofwoe 3y agoMy guess is that LLVM IR preserves too little semantic information to implement such a feature.
- SnowflakeOnIce 3y agoIt predates LLVM. That's one reason, anyway.
- rjmunro 3y agoI think the LLVM level doesn't work as it throws away too much semantic information, but much of the CLANG front end can be used via it's API. There is a fork of CBMC called ESBMC that does this and many other changes: https://ssvlab.github.io/esbmc/documentation.html https://ssvlab.github.io/esbmc/documentation.html
- quotemstr 3y agoI'm curious about what relevant details get thrown away in translation to LLVM IR and that we can't add back with annotations. It's a shame that it's not possible to use these analysis tools on modern C++ codebases.
- rocqua 3y agoUndefined behavior around void pointers springs to mind.
- nickpsecurity 3y agoAnother problem with LLVM I’ve heard about is that it’s intermediate language or API or something is a moving, informally-specified target. People who know LLVM internals might weigh in on that claim. If true, it’s actually easier to target C or a subset of Rust just because it’s static and well-understood. Two projects sought to mitigate these issues by going in different directions. One was a compiler backend that aimed to be easy to learn with well-specified IL. The other aimed to formalize LLVM’s IL. http://c9x.me/compile/ http://c9x.me/compile/ https://github.com/AliveToolkit/alive2 https://github.com/AliveToolkit/alive2 There have also been typed, assembly languages to support verification from groups like FLINT. One can also compile language-specific analysis with a certified to LLVM IL compiler. Integrating pieces from different languages can have risks. That (IIRC) is being mitigated by people doing secure, abstract compilation.
- sweetjuly 3y agoYes, the textual IR format is not an API. It's an internal implementation detail which changes somewhat rapidly. It's well specified but there's no guarantees that if you write some IR which works in LLVM 16 that it'll work as expected in LLVM 17, etc. Inside of LLVM itself IR and its related manipulation and analysis functions are "API" in so far as there's an expectation that if you change how the IR works that you won't break existing in-tree passes/that you'll work with maintainers to fix them.
- nickpsecurity 3y agoThat makes more sense. Thanks!
- tkz1312 3y agoklee is a similar tool that operates on llvm bytecode: http://klee-se.org/ http://klee-se.org/
- xvilka 3y agoIt doesn't work on real software though. Anything non-trivial.
- kldx 3y agoVCLLVM was presented at ETAPS 2024. The goal is to compile both languages and specifications to LLVM IR.
- IshKebab 3y agoI've used this before. It's pretty great. Also used as the backend for Kani I believe (Amazon's Rust formal verification tool).
- PartiallyTyped 3y agoThis is achieved by latching on to rustc, and then compiling to gotoc, which is then used with CBMC. Removed due to my misunderstanding: ~~I don't think Kani counts as a "formal" verification tool, emphasis on "formal", but it is a verification tool for rust code and is powered by CBMC.~~
- IshKebab 3y agoI'm not sure what you're implying. Kani absolutely is formal verification. CBMC stands for C Bounded Model Checker and model checking is one of the main forms of formal verification.
- PartiallyTyped 3y agoEdit: Seems like I misread the documentation... ~~What I was implying is that Kani just can't figure out all of the paths;~~ ~~Consider this example from Kani documentation [1]:~~ fn estimate_size(x: u32) -> u32 { if x < 256 { if x < 128 { return 1; } else { return 3; } } else if x < 1024 { if x > 1022 { panic!("Oh no, a failing corner case!"); } else { return 5; } } else { if x < 2048 { return 7; } else { return 9; } } } ~~Kani is very unlikely to find x=1023.~~ https://model-checking.github.io/kani/tutorial-first-steps.html https://model-checking.github.io/kani/tutorial-first-steps.h...
- accelbred 3y agoKani will find 1023 unless you constrain the input. The link you posted is saying a property test is unlikely to find it but Kani will find it.
- PartiallyTyped 3y agoCBMC also powers Kani <3
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- ranger_danger 3y agoHow does this compare to scan-build, clazy etc.?
- IshKebab 3y agoThose are different kinds of tools. Clazy is pretty much a linter. Scan-build is a traditional static analyser. It tries to find bugs or possible bugs but it's not trying to disprove the presence of bugs. CBMC is a formal verification tool which tries to prove that there aren't any bugs (where "bugs" means things like UB).
- xxmarkuski 3y agoCBMC ist pretty cool, I've used it in my bachelor's thesis for verification of fairness properties in proportional voting. Another use case I've seen is using CBMC in multiparty computation. What you have there is methods that work on boolean circuits. Flange CBMC in front of this and you got multiparty computation of C code.
- nanolith 3y agoI have been using CBMC to formally verify C for six, make that seven years now (edit: time flies). The latest release is actually pretty good. The secret to model checking is to understand that you're building and verifying a specification in code. It works best if specifications are built function by function. For each function, I'll build "shadow functions" that simplify any functions it calls with a range of potential non-deterministic behavior that matches that function's contract. In this way, formal specifications can be built from the ground up by first verifying a lower-level function and then replacing it with a shadow function that mimics its behavior in a non-deterministic but SMT solver friendly way. There are things that model checking doesn't do well. Anything with recursion or looping that can't be easily broken down will not perform well with a model checker. While algorithms like balanced binary trees or sorting can be broken down in a way that can be model checked, other algorithms may require the sort of induction one gets with constructive proofs to sufficiently verify. There is an art to this which will lead to style changes in C and a slightly different way of building up functions from pieces that can be trivially model checked. Honestly, that's not a bad thing. For the parts that can't be easily model checked, I'm working on a C parser library that can be formally verified, which will import C directly into Coq or Lean. I consider that the "last mile" before formal methods in firmware and system software is to the point that it's generally available.
- zzz95 3y agoI am very curious about what kind of industry domains lets you have this kind of fun? Unless of course, you are in academia.
- rurban 3y agoNot fun, a serious tool, and extremely easy to use, unlike other formal methods. It works with your source code, not on some rewritten abstraction of it. Embedded, automotive, space use it regularly. I've setup cbmc and goto-analyzer for string searching algos here https://github.com/rurban/smart https://github.com/rurban/smart and really found some bugs in old published algos.
- nanolith 3y ago