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Ah yes.. Switch to Typescript and give up all your advances to get a brand new set of crutches.

by porsager 2y ago

wiseowise 2y ago
Can you elaborate what you consider "crutches" in this case?
- porsager 2y ago
  They had a custom language giving them full flexibility to achieve making a product in the browser that put them ahead of everyone else, and instead of embracing that, they throw it out to be able to hire of the shelve developers to code in a language that doesn't let them move freely. Typescript is like crutches in the sense that it might support you in not falling, but you only really need them if you're crippled in some way.
  - IshKebab 2y ago
    What are you talking about? Typescript is a fantastic improvement on JavaScript. Skew doesn't look fundamentally better enough that it would be worth the downsides. Lack of IDE support alone is probably enough to cancel out a productivity gains from a better language.
  - whywhywhywhy 2y ago
    > They had a custom language giving them full flexibility to achieve making a product in the browser that put them ahead of everyone else From the article it sounds like it was only used for the prototyping system so a single code base could run in the iOS client and the Web client. I believe the main UI of Figma and what makes it so performant and magical to use is C++ https://www.figma.com/blog/webassembly-cut-figmas-load-time-by-3x/ https://www.figma.com/blog/webassembly-cut-figmas-load-time-...
frou_dh 2y ago
They should have brought you in as a consultant so that they would have arrived at the correct decision. Alas, they are now doomed to be wrong forever.
dfgdfg34545456 2y ago
I like that typescript catches when I need to do null checks so I don't end up with the most notorious runtime error seared into the brain of every JS developer "cannot read property of undefined". Some parts are nice, like the string literal typing "this" | "that". Other things are hacky, like "branded types", gross. But then I think of my commercial codebase which is extremely well tested, regular old JS, and wonder if is worth the hassle.

Ah yes.. Switch to Typescript and give up all your advances to get a brand new set of crutches.

wiseowise 2y ago

Can you elaborate what you consider "crutches" in this case?

porsager 2y ago
They had a custom language giving them full flexibility to achieve making a product in the browser that put them ahead of everyone else, and instead of embracing that, they throw it out to be able to hire of the shelve developers to code in a language that doesn't let them move freely. Typescript is like crutches in the sense that it might support you in not falling, but you only really need them if you're crippled in some way.
- IshKebab 2y ago
  What are you talking about? Typescript is a fantastic improvement on JavaScript. Skew doesn't look fundamentally better enough that it would be worth the downsides. Lack of IDE support alone is probably enough to cancel out a productivity gains from a better language.
- whywhywhywhy 2y ago
  > They had a custom language giving them full flexibility to achieve making a product in the browser that put them ahead of everyone else From the article it sounds like it was only used for the prototyping system so a single code base could run in the iOS client and the Web client. I believe the main UI of Figma and what makes it so performant and magical to use is C++ https://www.figma.com/blog/webassembly-cut-figmas-load-time-by-3x/ https://www.figma.com/blog/webassembly-cut-figmas-load-time-...

frou_dh 2y ago

They should have brought you in as a consultant so that they would have arrived at the correct decision. Alas, they are now doomed to be wrong forever.

dfgdfg34545456 2y ago

I like that typescript catches when I need to do null checks so I don't end up with the most notorious runtime error seared into the brain of every JS developer "cannot read property of undefined". Some parts are nice, like the string literal typing "this" | "that". Other things are hacky, like "branded types", gross. But then I think of my commercial codebase which is extremely well tested, regular old JS, and wonder if is worth the hassle.