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Yes, I'm sure obfuscating Google Street maps will prevent DPR artillery from accurately striking targets in Seoul.

Intralexical 2y ago
Given some of the genius contraptions and tactics that the Russian Army has been caught using in Ukraine, I wouldn't be surprised if it actually did. Also, infosec isn't binary. Obfuscating Google Maps might not prevent the DPRK from doing terrible things to Seoul, but not obfuscating it would probably make it easier for them to do so.
- solarkraft 2y ago
  > some of the genius contraptions and tactics that the Russian Army has been caught using in Ukraine This may have gone past me (I mostly remember the highly non-genius tactics), do you have some examples?
  - gembeMx 2y ago
    I’m sure the American tax payers are sending in billions of dollars because Russia is highly non genius lol. Get your head out your ass
    - actionfromafar 2y ago
      In Russia several hundreds of thousands of casualties is genius.
      - jampekka 2y ago
        There doesn't seem to be any reliable casualty numbers from the war. It's entirely possible there are more Ukrainan than Russian casualties. https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-losses-casualties-tanks-death-toll-anniversary-1864726 https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-losses-casualties-ta...
        gembeMx 2y ago
        Exactly, Russia has been “dying” for years now but there’s only one country crying in the media.
        actionfromafar 2y ago
        Russia doesn't have any media to cry in, so there's that.
        gembeMx 2y ago
        [dead]
        actionfromafar 2y ago
        I was thinking of the combined casualties. It's not something to celebrate to hurt so many people for the benefit of the thieves in the Kremlin.
    - mrguyorama 2y ago
      You should see what the russians are spending to counteract the literal crumbs of Western warfighting. Those bradleys and Abrams were 2000 vintage lol. The ATACMS are so old they are nearly expired. 200 bradleys and 100 western tanks gave russia pause, but the US has 3000 of each, in much better condition than the 3000 rusted out hulks russia is pulling from it's storage yards. The only saving grace for russia has been the wests absolute unwillingness to donate anything more than table scraps to defend the sovereignty of Ukraine, forcing Ukraine to make do with basically nothing, causing needless Ukrainian blood to be spilled. Ukraine could surrender tomorrow and this war would still have been a huge geopolitical blunder by Russia. Now if only the West could copy the Shahed and Lancet, and I don't mean whatever the fuck "switchblade" sells that has a pissant warhead that couldn't disable a tent but costs ten times as much as the lancet. I know a lot of the cost of western precision munitions is about EW resistance and "military hardening" but the US has the entirety of the airforce budget dedicated to removing point targets that prevent you from attacking whatever you want, you won't always need a hardened weapon system. The Ukrainians hit that naval headquarters in Crimea with one of their duct-taped together homebuilt drones!
  - actionfromafar 2y ago
    They seem to have placed GPS guided glide wing packages on old WW2 stylebombs dropped from bombers. :-/
    - amenhotep 2y ago
      The UMPK packages look janky to the eye but JDAM is exactly the same thing and nobody makes snarky comments on the internet about that.
duxup 2y ago
Autocratic governments can be surprisingly inefficient / bad at things.
bee_rider 2y ago
On one hand, I’m quite sure South Korea’s government has put a whole lot more thought into this than we have, and they decided to obfuscate the maps so… who knows, I guess they decided it helps. On the other hand, given that NK is using, what, WW2 vintage artillery, I can’t see how. They are probably aiming “south” with magnitude “lots,” right? What good is a 500 meter offset, or whatever, going to do when they are just aiming at the city in general.
- lainga 2y ago
  On the third hand, if you've ever had to interact with a Korean bank over the internet (or read any of the laws that constrain this interaction), then yes, > South Korea’s government has put a whole lot more thought into this than we have in approximately 1998. and then never again. if it's not broken (for the chaebols), well...

Given some of the genius contraptions and tactics that the Russian Army has been caught using in Ukraine, I wouldn't be surprised if it actually did. Also, infosec isn't binary. Obfuscating Google Maps might not prevent the DPRK from doing terrible things to Seoul, but not obfuscating it would probably make it easier for them to do so.

solarkraft 2y ago
> some of the genius contraptions and tactics that the Russian Army has been caught using in Ukraine This may have gone past me (I mostly remember the highly non-genius tactics), do you have some examples?
- gembeMx 2y ago
  I’m sure the American tax payers are sending in billions of dollars because Russia is highly non genius lol. Get your head out your ass
  - actionfromafar 2y ago
    In Russia several hundreds of thousands of casualties is genius.
    - jampekka 2y ago
      There doesn't seem to be any reliable casualty numbers from the war. It's entirely possible there are more Ukrainan than Russian casualties. https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-losses-casualties-tanks-death-toll-anniversary-1864726 https://www.newsweek.com/russia-ukraine-losses-casualties-ta...
      - gembeMx 2y ago
        Exactly, Russia has been “dying” for years now but there’s only one country crying in the media.
        actionfromafar 2y ago
        Russia doesn't have any media to cry in, so there's that.
        gembeMx 2y ago
        [dead]
      - actionfromafar 2y ago
        I was thinking of the combined casualties. It's not something to celebrate to hurt so many people for the benefit of the thieves in the Kremlin.
  - mrguyorama 2y ago
    You should see what the russians are spending to counteract the literal crumbs of Western warfighting. Those bradleys and Abrams were 2000 vintage lol. The ATACMS are so old they are nearly expired. 200 bradleys and 100 western tanks gave russia pause, but the US has 3000 of each, in much better condition than the 3000 rusted out hulks russia is pulling from it's storage yards. The only saving grace for russia has been the wests absolute unwillingness to donate anything more than table scraps to defend the sovereignty of Ukraine, forcing Ukraine to make do with basically nothing, causing needless Ukrainian blood to be spilled. Ukraine could surrender tomorrow and this war would still have been a huge geopolitical blunder by Russia. Now if only the West could copy the Shahed and Lancet, and I don't mean whatever the fuck "switchblade" sells that has a pissant warhead that couldn't disable a tent but costs ten times as much as the lancet. I know a lot of the cost of western precision munitions is about EW resistance and "military hardening" but the US has the entirety of the airforce budget dedicated to removing point targets that prevent you from attacking whatever you want, you won't always need a hardened weapon system. The Ukrainians hit that naval headquarters in Crimea with one of their duct-taped together homebuilt drones!
- actionfromafar 2y ago
  They seem to have placed GPS guided glide wing packages on old WW2 stylebombs dropped from bombers. :-/
  - amenhotep 2y ago
    The UMPK packages look janky to the eye but JDAM is exactly the same thing and nobody makes snarky comments on the internet about that.

duxup 2y ago

Autocratic governments can be surprisingly inefficient / bad at things.

bee_rider 2y ago

On one hand, I’m quite sure South Korea’s government has put a whole lot more thought into this than we have, and they decided to obfuscate the maps so… who knows, I guess they decided it helps. On the other hand, given that NK is using, what, WW2 vintage artillery, I can’t see how. They are probably aiming “south” with magnitude “lots,” right? What good is a 500 meter offset, or whatever, going to do when they are just aiming at the city in general.

lainga 2y ago
On the third hand, if you've ever had to interact with a Korean bank over the internet (or read any of the laws that constrain this interaction), then yes, > South Korea’s government has put a whole lot more thought into this than we have in approximately 1998. and then never again. if it's not broken (for the chaebols), well...