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Why would I make the store loyalty remark? Because it is clear you are underestimating things you don’t know. Why would I think that? Because the cable people w

Why would I make the store loyalty remark? Because it is clear you are underestimating things you don’t know. Why would I think that? Because the cable people were targeting individuals and had the mechanisms and data to back it up. The satellite comment shows that _even_ the satellite people were doing this in spite of their disadvantages. There is a distinct tendency on forums like this to believe if something isn’t widely discussed on the internet then it didn’t happen. You should stop assuming the worst and being so obnoxious.

Dylan16807 3y ago
> You should stop assuming the worst and being so obnoxious. You don't think this applies to the store loyalty comment? I'm not surprised, I wanted specifics instead of implications, jesus. I'm not saying anything "didn't happen", unless you're claiming cable had universal tracking from the start, in the 50s. And AGAIN That doesn't affect my main point, which you keep ignoring. You ignoring my main argument is far more obnoxious than anything I'm doing.
- fidotron 3y ago
  > That's broad targeting. Miles away from hypertargeting/surveillance. This is just wrong. You are misinterpreting what I'm saying to mean what you want it to say and not what it does say, then getting confused, angry and demanding answers. It's not a winning strategy. EDIT: in the spirit of generosity I will add a detail you seem to be missing: those target groups can be very very very very small indeed.
  - Dylan16807 3y ago
    > This is just wrong. You are misinterpreting what I'm saying to mean what you want it to say and not what it does say, then getting confused, angry and demanding answers. It's not a winning strategy. For my main point, I just wanted you to address it at all, whether you agree or disagree, I wasn't demanding answers. The thing I wanted an answer for was a separate point, which you laser-focused on to mock and not answer. That's not a winning strategy either. And I wouldn't be upset if you didn't want to bother with it very much, but you don't get to just mock it and say nothing else if you're trying to actually have a conversation. > EDIT: in the spirit of generosity I will add a detail you seem to be missing: those target groups can be very very very very small indeed. If you make an entire channel, it is not very very very very small! Unless you're talking about something very different from traditional channels, which again follows my point that it didn't work that way for decades, and satellite didn't have the bandwidth to do that.

Dylan16807 3y ago

> You should stop assuming the worst and being so obnoxious. You don't think this applies to the store loyalty comment? I'm not surprised, I wanted specifics instead of implications, jesus. I'm not saying anything "didn't happen", unless you're claiming cable had universal tracking from the start, in the 50s. And AGAIN That doesn't affect my main point, which you keep ignoring. You ignoring my main argument is far more obnoxious than anything I'm doing.

fidotron 3y ago
> That's broad targeting. Miles away from hypertargeting/surveillance. This is just wrong. You are misinterpreting what I'm saying to mean what you want it to say and not what it does say, then getting confused, angry and demanding answers. It's not a winning strategy. EDIT: in the spirit of generosity I will add a detail you seem to be missing: those target groups can be very very very very small indeed.
- Dylan16807 3y ago
  > This is just wrong. You are misinterpreting what I'm saying to mean what you want it to say and not what it does say, then getting confused, angry and demanding answers. It's not a winning strategy. For my main point, I just wanted you to address it at all, whether you agree or disagree, I wasn't demanding answers. The thing I wanted an answer for was a separate point, which you laser-focused on to mock and not answer. That's not a winning strategy either. And I wouldn't be upset if you didn't want to bother with it very much, but you don't get to just mock it and say nothing else if you're trying to actually have a conversation. > EDIT: in the spirit of generosity I will add a detail you seem to be missing: those target groups can be very very very very small indeed. If you make an entire channel, it is not very very very very small! Unless you're talking about something very different from traditional channels, which again follows my point that it didn't work that way for decades, and satellite didn't have the bandwidth to do that.