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It's a sad story and a good reminder to always keep in mind YOLO! but I think it's bit exaggerating to say losing my hands, while they're still "there". What a

It's a sad story and a good reminder to always keep in mind YOLO! but I think it's bit exaggerating to say losing my hands, while they're still "there". What about the guys who had their limbs amputated? They even can't swim anymore, don't even talk about cooking or putting on trousers (or self love..) It's a drama. Yes. I feel for you. I also feel/see a lot of self pityriasis in your thinking/text, like paying lots of attention to own condition and whining about.. I'm in a severe condition by myself, but I always have thought of this "this shit. But others got more shit to bare and have a ticking clock over them" So, keep up the sanity. Live with your condition. Try to find a relief. Adapt to the new situation - what you already did. Write less text that trend to provoke others feeling pity for you. Or in my words: my problem is my condition and it's my condition that it won't become your problem. Peace. Wish you the best.

melling 2y ago
Dealing with hand pain when you’re a computer programmer can be difficult. Here’s the creator of TCL discussing dealing with it in the 1990s https://web.stanford.edu/~ouster/cgi-bin/wrist.php https://web.stanford.edu/~ouster/cgi-bin/wrist.php An important excerpt: “My experience suggests that once you start having RSI problems it is very difficult to get rid of them: it will probably be an issue for the rest of your life, and if you don't act quickly things will get much worse. ”
- theGeatZhopa 2y ago
  Compare it to dialysis, where you can't drink when you're thirsty and can't eat a banana and generally have food restrictions, and where you have to go 3x for 4h a week to a hospital. Compare it with cancer and doing the possible against. Compare it to really lost hands caused by sepsis. Compare it to people becoming blind or being blind / suffering hear loss.... No matter if you're a programmer or not, you have to find your way. Each of the samples, and a lot a lot more, are there, (like RSI too?), for the rest of one's life. So how much of such people do you know? How much of them are posting on a site what they are suffering? I don't know one in my aroundings. I too, do not post anything blog wise. I don't feel pity for my self and I don't want to be pitied by others is my reason. And that's what I say. If one wants to help people in same condition with tips on handling, which is completely feasible, then the text would sound differently. No matter what condition one have, one must cope with it.
  - Aeolun 2y ago
    It’s much harder for people without hands to write blog posts too.
    - theGeatZhopa 2y ago
      Yes.. not even talking about coding. These guys would change places with someone with RSI at once and without hesitation. ... Me too. If one wants to give me his RSI, I give you my things. It's a win-win in my eyes.
      - melling 2y ago
        This is a conversation about RSI. I’m not sure why people would jump in to tell others how worse off they could be. there’s no value in that conversation. In fact, it lacks a bit of maturity.
        Aeolun 2y ago
        I think it’s kinda relevant when someone presents their RSI as ‘losing their hands’?
  - melling 2y ago
    As someone who has had their hands on fire from typing, I’d personally like to tell you to shut up. You’re clueless. Imagine a doctor with your attitude. People have a real problem that no one has a real answer for. They don’t need to be told how much worse it could be. I’ve got a GitHub repo where I catalog many RSI instances and treatments. https://github.com/melling/ErgonomicNotes https://github.com/melling/ErgonomicNotes
    - theGeatZhopa 2y ago
      As someone who has more severe condition, I tell you you are clueless. So here we are. You want to shut up as first?
- HanClinto 2y ago
  Currently getting a server error on the Stanford link. Archive link: https://web.archive.org/web/20210425082459/https://web.stanford.edu/~ouster/cgi-bin/wrist.php https://web.archive.org/web/20210425082459/https://web.stanf...
- coffeebeqn 2y ago
  It is possible to recover.. but you need to rest the joints which will mean no typing for some weeks at least. I’ve had RSI on my ankle and had to not use it for some weeks (walking with sticks). But it’s back to normal now and hasn’t been an issue for years
  - theGeatZhopa 2y ago
    Yes, it's possible in some cases. In some cases, you might need an operation. Or may be a better doctor. When I was young, I had back pain when I bow/go down. It came suddenly and stayed for more then 2 years -> 2 years of not being able to get things from floor without pain. My doctor here (one of the best in town, Germany), did X-ray, analysis, X-ray, decided to prescribe medication that I can't take. Then he wanted to make an operation, which I didn't want. So, after 2 years of pain, I went to study abroad in China. There, I went to military hospital and ask a guy what could that be, what I have. I didn't tell him the diagnosis of the German doctor. So that Chinese doc looked at me, make me wait outside for 5 mins and when I went in back - really funny story - he took a pencil and with it pulled up my shirt, asking me whether I wear a trouser belt, which I don't do. After I say "no", he told me to pull up my trousers. Suddenly, I felt a light relief of pain.. and I tell you, the next 1 week I always pulled up my pants and the back pain never came back again. Since 20 years now. So, your tip with resting is exactly that what is needed. But I don't know, whether all conditions can be healed by that, or some still needs medication or operation. Good luck to all and always pull up your pants!
- j45 2y ago
  Variety in ergonomics years before they're needed is helpful.

melling 2y ago

Dealing with hand pain when you’re a computer programmer can be difficult. Here’s the creator of TCL discussing dealing with it in the 1990s https://web.stanford.edu/~ouster/cgi-bin/wrist.php https://web.stanford.edu/~ouster/cgi-bin/wrist.php An important excerpt: “My experience suggests that once you start having RSI problems it is very difficult to get rid of them: it will probably be an issue for the rest of your life, and if you don't act quickly things will get much worse. ”

theGeatZhopa 2y ago
Compare it to dialysis, where you can't drink when you're thirsty and can't eat a banana and generally have food restrictions, and where you have to go 3x for 4h a week to a hospital. Compare it with cancer and doing the possible against. Compare it to really lost hands caused by sepsis. Compare it to people becoming blind or being blind / suffering hear loss.... No matter if you're a programmer or not, you have to find your way. Each of the samples, and a lot a lot more, are there, (like RSI too?), for the rest of one's life. So how much of such people do you know? How much of them are posting on a site what they are suffering? I don't know one in my aroundings. I too, do not post anything blog wise. I don't feel pity for my self and I don't want to be pitied by others is my reason. And that's what I say. If one wants to help people in same condition with tips on handling, which is completely feasible, then the text would sound differently. No matter what condition one have, one must cope with it.
- Aeolun 2y ago
  It’s much harder for people without hands to write blog posts too.
  - theGeatZhopa 2y ago
    Yes.. not even talking about coding. These guys would change places with someone with RSI at once and without hesitation. ... Me too. If one wants to give me his RSI, I give you my things. It's a win-win in my eyes.
    - melling 2y ago
      This is a conversation about RSI. I’m not sure why people would jump in to tell others how worse off they could be. there’s no value in that conversation. In fact, it lacks a bit of maturity.
      - Aeolun 2y ago
        I think it’s kinda relevant when someone presents their RSI as ‘losing their hands’?
- melling 2y ago
  As someone who has had their hands on fire from typing, I’d personally like to tell you to shut up. You’re clueless. Imagine a doctor with your attitude. People have a real problem that no one has a real answer for. They don’t need to be told how much worse it could be. I’ve got a GitHub repo where I catalog many RSI instances and treatments. https://github.com/melling/ErgonomicNotes https://github.com/melling/ErgonomicNotes
  - theGeatZhopa 2y ago
    As someone who has more severe condition, I tell you you are clueless. So here we are. You want to shut up as first?
HanClinto 2y ago
Currently getting a server error on the Stanford link. Archive link: https://web.archive.org/web/20210425082459/https://web.stanford.edu/~ouster/cgi-bin/wrist.php https://web.archive.org/web/20210425082459/https://web.stanf...
coffeebeqn 2y ago
It is possible to recover.. but you need to rest the joints which will mean no typing for some weeks at least. I’ve had RSI on my ankle and had to not use it for some weeks (walking with sticks). But it’s back to normal now and hasn’t been an issue for years
- theGeatZhopa 2y ago
  Yes, it's possible in some cases. In some cases, you might need an operation. Or may be a better doctor. When I was young, I had back pain when I bow/go down. It came suddenly and stayed for more then 2 years -> 2 years of not being able to get things from floor without pain. My doctor here (one of the best in town, Germany), did X-ray, analysis, X-ray, decided to prescribe medication that I can't take. Then he wanted to make an operation, which I didn't want. So, after 2 years of pain, I went to study abroad in China. There, I went to military hospital and ask a guy what could that be, what I have. I didn't tell him the diagnosis of the German doctor. So that Chinese doc looked at me, make me wait outside for 5 mins and when I went in back - really funny story - he took a pencil and with it pulled up my shirt, asking me whether I wear a trouser belt, which I don't do. After I say "no", he told me to pull up my trousers. Suddenly, I felt a light relief of pain.. and I tell you, the next 1 week I always pulled up my pants and the back pain never came back again. Since 20 years now. So, your tip with resting is exactly that what is needed. But I don't know, whether all conditions can be healed by that, or some still needs medication or operation. Good luck to all and always pull up your pants!
j45 2y ago
Variety in ergonomics years before they're needed is helpful.