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> ... “The guy that every girl would want.” > They were soon dating, sharing dinners at Red Lobster I'm not entirely convinced that dinners at Red Lobster are

> ... “The guy that every girl would want.” > They were soon dating, sharing dinners at Red Lobster I'm not entirely convinced that dinners at Red Lobster are what "every girl wants".

kelnos 3y ago
Wow, that's a really disgustingly elitist take. Pretty much everything wrong with some types of well-off/wealthy people is summed up in your comment. While I haven't been to a Red Lobster since I was a kid, that was always a treat back then, and it was one of the nicest places my parents could afford to take us on occasion.
- antonvs 3y ago
  > While I haven't been to a Red Lobster since I was a kid Why not? Have you become “disgustingly elitist”? The scenario I responded to didn’t involve family meals with children. My original comment was referring to nothing other than the fact that the food at Red Lobsters is pretty terrible. It’s not about price - there are plenty of cheap restaurants that serve good food. See https://slate.com/business/2013/12/red-lobster-s-bad-food-problem-it-s-egregious.html https://slate.com/business/2013/12/red-lobster-s-bad-food-pr...
cobertos 3y ago
I mean, I wouldn't mind being taken out to Red Lobster. I've come to find too, partners who prefer whatever instead of having very specific expectations for time spent together are more comfortable to be around.
- pinkmuffinere 3y ago
  I don’t know how to interpret this chain — is red lobster not fancy enough? For some reason I thought it was relatively fancy? Certainly not Michelin rated, but still
  - rob74 3y ago
    General question: can any chain restaurant be considered "fancy"? In Europe I would say certainly not, not sure about the US though...
    - Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
      I'd flip the question the other way around. Why does becoming a chain automatically disqualify a place as being fancy? I think people apply a lot of assumptions once the word "chain" has entered the chat. They assume they've entered a race to the bottom on costs to maximize profits, but there are plenty of chains that I would still consider on the fancy side. Fogo de Chao and Ruth's Chris, for example.
    - vidarh 3y ago
      It's a tricky one. I'd lean towards no, but there are some chains that push up against it. Often ones that are either small and/or where at least some of their restaurants are not "obviously chain restaurants" and often also employing the "trick" of a small number spread across cities that makes it seem "fancier" As an example, Aqua has restaurants in New York, Miami, Dubai, London, and Hong Kong. Some of them are branded Aqua, but most are not. So while it's a "chain", it feels fancy, perhaps more so than justified. E.g. their London restaurants are perhaps more flashy / "tourist fancy" w/e.g. two restaurants in the Shard, than "actually" fancy. They're mostly pretty mid-range, maybe upper mid-range for London. I think that's about where you'll get to as a chain. To get above that, you get to the level where you expect the restaurant to at least tell you about their chef by name, whether or not they're actually famous enough for you to recognise it.
    - cgriswald 3y ago
      Yes. Some places in the US are a sea of chain restaurants so “fancy” is relative. People propose marriage at some chains, which I think indicates they think those chains are fancy.
      - singleshot_ 3y ago
        Additional datapoint: I saw two people get married at a 5.11 retail store.
- defrost 3y ago
  Many of the girls|women in my part of the world would rather go freediving for crayfish and eat them on the beach than hang out in a chain resturant. https://youtu.be/yk6wa0YcUN0?t=60 https://youtu.be/yk6wa0YcUN0?t=60
  - 082349872349872 3y ago
    Where I grew up, crayfish are freshwater mudbugs; those would be rock lobsters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4QSYx4wVQg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4QSYx4wVQg . Also where I grew up, we had a "baseball analogy" for dating, in which running the bases proceeds more or less as follows: 1st base - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_kTor63Ihw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_kTor63Ihw 2nd base - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHOo_b6Gn4c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHOo_b6Gn4c 3rd base - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-rB0pHI9fU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-rB0pHI9fU home run - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1niTEkP-6eo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1niTEkP-6eo So I would say (referring to the diving video!) that fingers in wet crevices and feeling around would be 3rd while sticking spears in and suddenly releasing tension would defo be a home run. In countries that don't really have baseball as a sport that anyone plays, does the same pattern apply? Are there different analogies, perhaps involving "silly mid ons" or "brexit tackles"?
  - 082349872349872 3y ago
    Reflecting upon this a bit more, perhaps something that helps in our parts of the world is that restaurants are not segmented by price point. For instance, at lunch time everyone goes to the restaurants close by, but apprentices and street workers take the meal of the day, while the office workers order from the menu. So chain restaurants are really something that typically occur only in the same sorts of areas as big box stores, aiming at a similar demographic.
  - mnky9800n 3y ago
    Aren't you special
    - defrost 3y ago
      Not particularly .. why do you think that? As stated above, first dates at resturants, etc aren't for everybody.
lenerdenator 3y ago
Two words: Bottomless. Shrimp.
- injb 3y ago
  They probably selling the bottoms to someone else
- tacocataco 3y ago
  Should the third word be bankruptcy? https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Food/red-lobster-eyes-bankruptcy-option-after-11m-losses/story?id=109376206 https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Food/red-lobster-eyes-bankruptcy-...
  - lenerdenator 3y ago
    At least this time it wasn't because the Soviets boycotted the Olympics.
ravenstine 3y ago
I'm imagining the bell-curve meme with the guy on the left saying "take her to red lobster", thr guy in the middle saying "if you respect her, put on a tie, give her flowers, and take her to Chez Pierre", and the guy on the right saying "take her to red lobster".
- antonvs 3y ago
  The guy on the right would need a high tolerance for terrible food. https://slate.com/business/2013/12/red-lobster-s-bad-food-problem-it-s-egregious.html https://slate.com/business/2013/12/red-lobster-s-bad-food-pr...
lupusreal 3y ago
ITT: people who make a million dollars in a few years or less sneer at working class people enjoying what they can afford to enjoy.
- antonvs 3y ago
  There are plenty of cheap restaurants better than Red Lobster. See https://slate.com/business/2013/12/red-lobster-s-bad-food-problem-it-s-egregious.html https://slate.com/business/2013/12/red-lobster-s-bad-food-pr...

> ... “The guy that every girl would want.” > They were soon dating, sharing dinners at Red Lobster I'm not entirely convinced that dinners at Red Lobster are what "every girl wants".

kelnos 3y ago

Wow, that's a really disgustingly elitist take. Pretty much everything wrong with some types of well-off/wealthy people is summed up in your comment. While I haven't been to a Red Lobster since I was a kid, that was always a treat back then, and it was one of the nicest places my parents could afford to take us on occasion.

antonvs 3y ago
> While I haven't been to a Red Lobster since I was a kid Why not? Have you become “disgustingly elitist”? The scenario I responded to didn’t involve family meals with children. My original comment was referring to nothing other than the fact that the food at Red Lobsters is pretty terrible. It’s not about price - there are plenty of cheap restaurants that serve good food. See https://slate.com/business/2013/12/red-lobster-s-bad-food-problem-it-s-egregious.html https://slate.com/business/2013/12/red-lobster-s-bad-food-pr...

cobertos 3y ago

I mean, I wouldn't mind being taken out to Red Lobster. I've come to find too, partners who prefer whatever instead of having very specific expectations for time spent together are more comfortable to be around.

pinkmuffinere 3y ago
I don’t know how to interpret this chain — is red lobster not fancy enough? For some reason I thought it was relatively fancy? Certainly not Michelin rated, but still
- rob74 3y ago
  General question: can any chain restaurant be considered "fancy"? In Europe I would say certainly not, not sure about the US though...
  - Sohcahtoa82 3y ago
    I'd flip the question the other way around. Why does becoming a chain automatically disqualify a place as being fancy? I think people apply a lot of assumptions once the word "chain" has entered the chat. They assume they've entered a race to the bottom on costs to maximize profits, but there are plenty of chains that I would still consider on the fancy side. Fogo de Chao and Ruth's Chris, for example.
  - vidarh 3y ago
    It's a tricky one. I'd lean towards no, but there are some chains that push up against it. Often ones that are either small and/or where at least some of their restaurants are not "obviously chain restaurants" and often also employing the "trick" of a small number spread across cities that makes it seem "fancier" As an example, Aqua has restaurants in New York, Miami, Dubai, London, and Hong Kong. Some of them are branded Aqua, but most are not. So while it's a "chain", it feels fancy, perhaps more so than justified. E.g. their London restaurants are perhaps more flashy / "tourist fancy" w/e.g. two restaurants in the Shard, than "actually" fancy. They're mostly pretty mid-range, maybe upper mid-range for London. I think that's about where you'll get to as a chain. To get above that, you get to the level where you expect the restaurant to at least tell you about their chef by name, whether or not they're actually famous enough for you to recognise it.
  - cgriswald 3y ago
    Yes. Some places in the US are a sea of chain restaurants so “fancy” is relative. People propose marriage at some chains, which I think indicates they think those chains are fancy.
    - singleshot_ 3y ago
      Additional datapoint: I saw two people get married at a 5.11 retail store.
defrost 3y ago
Many of the girls|women in my part of the world would rather go freediving for crayfish and eat them on the beach than hang out in a chain resturant. https://youtu.be/yk6wa0YcUN0?t=60 https://youtu.be/yk6wa0YcUN0?t=60
- 082349872349872 3y ago
  Where I grew up, crayfish are freshwater mudbugs; those would be rock lobsters: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4QSYx4wVQg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4QSYx4wVQg . Also where I grew up, we had a "baseball analogy" for dating, in which running the bases proceeds more or less as follows: 1st base - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_kTor63Ihw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o_kTor63Ihw 2nd base - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHOo_b6Gn4c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHOo_b6Gn4c 3rd base - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-rB0pHI9fU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S-rB0pHI9fU home run - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1niTEkP-6eo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1niTEkP-6eo So I would say (referring to the diving video!) that fingers in wet crevices and feeling around would be 3rd while sticking spears in and suddenly releasing tension would defo be a home run. In countries that don't really have baseball as a sport that anyone plays, does the same pattern apply? Are there different analogies, perhaps involving "silly mid ons" or "brexit tackles"?
- 082349872349872 3y ago
  Reflecting upon this a bit more, perhaps something that helps in our parts of the world is that restaurants are not segmented by price point. For instance, at lunch time everyone goes to the restaurants close by, but apprentices and street workers take the meal of the day, while the office workers order from the menu. So chain restaurants are really something that typically occur only in the same sorts of areas as big box stores, aiming at a similar demographic.
- mnky9800n 3y ago
  Aren't you special
  - defrost 3y ago
    Not particularly .. why do you think that? As stated above, first dates at resturants, etc aren't for everybody.

lenerdenator 3y ago

Two words: Bottomless. Shrimp.

injb 3y ago
They probably selling the bottoms to someone else
tacocataco 3y ago
Should the third word be bankruptcy? https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Food/red-lobster-eyes-bankruptcy-option-after-11m-losses/story?id=109376206 https://abcnews.go.com/GMA/Food/red-lobster-eyes-bankruptcy-...
- lenerdenator 3y ago
  At least this time it wasn't because the Soviets boycotted the Olympics.

ravenstine 3y ago

I'm imagining the bell-curve meme with the guy on the left saying "take her to red lobster", thr guy in the middle saying "if you respect her, put on a tie, give her flowers, and take her to Chez Pierre", and the guy on the right saying "take her to red lobster".

antonvs 3y ago
The guy on the right would need a high tolerance for terrible food. https://slate.com/business/2013/12/red-lobster-s-bad-food-problem-it-s-egregious.html https://slate.com/business/2013/12/red-lobster-s-bad-food-pr...

lupusreal 3y ago

ITT: people who make a million dollars in a few years or less sneer at working class people enjoying what they can afford to enjoy.

antonvs 3y ago
There are plenty of cheap restaurants better than Red Lobster. See https://slate.com/business/2013/12/red-lobster-s-bad-food-problem-it-s-egregious.html https://slate.com/business/2013/12/red-lobster-s-bad-food-pr...