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A Strong U.S. Dollar Weighs on the World
- metaphor 2y agohttps://archive.is/xOVVY https://archive.is/xOVVY https://web.archive.org/web/20240430191512/https://www.nytimes.com/2024/04/29/business/a-strong-us-dollar-weighs-on-the-world.html https://web.archive.org/web/20240430191512/https://www.nytim...
- Brajeshwar 2y agoI've tried subscribing to NYTimes couple of times (it is super-cheap, here in India) just to get rid of these irritations but I never succeeded -- error with the payment processors.
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- avidiax 2y agoSeems strange that the US printed lots of money, which caused inflation, which caused high interest rates, and now causes a strong dollar. You wouldn't think that printing money leads to a stronger currency, but perhaps this is a delayed effect after you stop printing.
- adriancr 2y agoperhaps everyone printed money and US less then the rest
- ipaddr 2y agoIt's more like everyone is printing money panic, run to US dollar for safety
- openrisk 2y agoMaybe its all relative (i.e., versus what other central banks have done in response to the same shocks). In any case the post-pandemic interest rate hikes are recent. There seems to be a much longer term (decades long) dollar strengthening pattern that is not really touched upon in the article.
- mitthrowaway2 2y agoAlso strange that this effect is to the point that the dollar gets stronger as the yen gets weaker, even though inflation in Japan has been weak and strong in the US. So the dollar's buying power weakened domestically even as it strengthened internationally.
- sschueller 2y agoSame im Switzerland. Our inflation is very low yet the dollar is getting stronger against the Swiss franc.
- refurb 2y agoIt’s all relative. Many, many countries effectively expanded their monetary supply during Covid.
- littlestymaar 2y ago> You wouldn't think that printing money leads to a stronger currency Money isn't a commodity, and that's why the Monetarist view is so off. Inflation is never caused by a decline in the value of money, but it can cause a decline in the value of money, just not in every conditions (and with central banks raising interest rates when there's inflation, in practice it has the opposite effect)
- cherryteastain 2y agoUS printing is not the same as everyone else printing. Almost all trade deals worldwide are done in USD. Everyone except the US must export goods and services (i.e. actually work) to acquire the dollars which will finance their imports; US can just print. Goods and services that are traded internationally are priced in USD. Other currencies do not end up directly representing goods and services; they are relative to the USD. Therefore, the demand for dollars is always very high, and it will be as long as the dollar keeps the reserve currency status.
- fractalb 2y ago> US can just print. How does that work? All the world’s economy is just equal to the US paper? Really?
- p_l 2y agoGoods and services traded internationally are priced in whatever the parties want. Ultimately they want to exchange for the currencies they need to pay bills, wages, and taxes in. "Reserve" currency has little to do with it - if anything it's the high volume of trade with USA that makes it worthwhile to keep reserves of USD, because the high volume of US trade means you get many chances to exchange USD for whatever currency you actually need.
- codexb 2y agoThey're somewhat unrelated, because while there's more dollars, the domestic demand for those dollars is also higher now, for lots of reasons. Inflation, the high amount of American debt (which must be paid in dollars), the looming threat of a recession, which entices Americans to save (and they'd prefer to save in dollars and not some other currency). It says a lot more about the preferences of Americans that it does about any of the other countries.
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- pineaux 2y agoYou should read "the global minotaur" by yanis varoufakis. It explains exactly why this is the case. This is true only for the US and it is because other countries buy dollars in bulk to keep the dollar high because: 1) not keeping the dollar high will devalue their dollar reserves. 2) they need large reserves of dollars to be able to facilitate trade in dollar denominated resources like oil. 3) they buy us treasury bonds because this will raise the value of their dollars and because it ks historically a safe investment.
- oytis 2y ago> because it ks historically a safe investment. That's the key IMO. USA has a long history of being a safe country for investment. It has uninterrupted democracy and rule of law since it was founded. It hasn't had a war on it's territory since the Civil War. It has a lot of free land and natural resources. It's just good fundamentals first - and then of course you need not to fuck up massively to ruin that, which USA has not.
- defrost 2y ago> It hasn't had a war on it's territory since the Civil War. American Civil War (April 12, 1861 – May 26, 1865) Black Hawk's War (1865–72) Red Cloud's War (1866–68) Comanche campaign (1867–75) Modoc War (1872–73) Red River War (1874–75) Great Sioux War of 1876 (1876–77) .... 10 more .... Ghost Dance War (1890–91) Crazy Snake Rebellion (1909) New Mexico Navajo War (1913) Bluff War (1914–15) Colorado Paiute War (1915) Posey War (1923) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_Indian_Wars https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_Indian_Wars
- resolutebat 2y agoCalling any of those "wars" is a stretch when casualties were mostly in the single digits.
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- p_l 2y agoThe relative value of different currencies is not at all related to "how much is printed". Heck, even internally the actual value of money is unrelated to how much is printed. Main drivers of exchange rates are international trade of all kinds and its requirement to use specific currencies in specific places (you can accept payment in JPY when your company is in USA, but you need to pay your taxes in USD!), and speculation. Essentially for FOREX, the exchange rate is essentially determined by entities needing specific currency for something - for example to pay for purchases or services, pay wages, taxes, etc. - when you have money in different currency. The rest is plain market - you put an offer like "I will buy 100k USD in exchange for 11m JPY", but others were willing to offer more, and thus the averaged (I know, simplification) exchange rate goes up. But you might be able to catch a trade at lower price because someone might need JPY right now (or other forex-compatible asset you have) quicker than it could sell USD at higher prices, etc. You can of course also purely speculate on the prices and make money from "nothing", pure financialization, pure capitalism, close to zero value being produced. Printing money can be used to artificially change the exchange rate by offering "cheap" money for other currencies. The reason why you might want to do is simple - your currency being "weaker" tends to benefit exports (at the same time exports drive currency "stronger"), while stronger currency benefits imports (but imports drive currency "weaker")
- eberkund 2y agoThe rest of the world also printed a lot of money. In a globalized economy inflation does remain isolated in the country that it originates in. Especially when the country has a lot of exports. Normally the exchange rate divergence could be countered by increasing interest rates in the country with the weakening currency. But today it appears most countries are not willing to do this to the extent necessary.
- rdm_blackhole 2y agoI think the main reasons of the strong USD are: - it's status as world reserve currency - it's seen as a safe heaven - The US is still the most profitable market to launch new product - the US job market is still performing well compared to the battered economies of Europe where unemployment is starting to go back up If the ECB decides to lower interest rates before the US Fed does, then even more capital will flow in the US because why would you accept a lower interest rate when you can get a better one in the US in the same asset class. That in turn will keep making the USD stronger than the euro.
- servus45678981 2y agoI still don’t get why anyone would invest in a regime like the US or China. Europe will show its glory again; no matter what. We will get back what was stolen.
- oytis 2y agoWhat US "regime"? Have I missed something? Is Trump already a president for life? > Europe will show its glory again; no matter what. Unless Europe finds a way to monetise retired people, lack of natural resources and free land and the grip of bureaucracy and old money I find it highly unlikely
- Yoric 2y agoI'm a EU citizen and I have no idea what you're talking about.
- orwin 2y agoWeirdly, there is also a premium on US multinationals. When you compare dividends+buybacks from UK/French/German companies to US companies, expected returns over 10years, and stock price, excluding "growth" companies (Tesla, netflix, Uber), you can see a 10 to 20% premium. Is it stability priced in?
- redox99 2y agoIf given choice to invest in a US company or an EU company, all things being equal, I'd pick US any day of the week. 10% to 20% premium seems kinda low in fact.
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- hindsightbias 2y agoSalvum Americana
- questhimay 2y agoThere's a rumor that Chinese government is going to significantly devalue the yuan https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-29/yuan-devaluation-debate-surfaces-as-traders-mull-next-fx-shock https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-04-29/yuan-deva..., to try to boost export decline from March. https://apnews.com/article/china-trade-exports-imports-b25c21299101d2483f946a0ce264662f https://apnews.com/article/china-trade-exports-imports-b25c2.... When that happens, oh boy, that's going to be so much money flowing from China to US that it's going to make the dollar even stronger
- po 2y ago> The yen is at a 34-year low against the U.S. dollar I live in Japan and this has happened so quickly it's been stunning. While not much has changed domestically so far, I am hearing and starting to see foreign people question whether they could work and live here long term if it stays like this. It's fine if you are earning USD and visiting Japan (wow there are so many tourists this year) but if your salary is priced in JPY and you plan to retire in the US, it's basically impossible right now. My understanding is that most of the pain in JPY is being caused by carry trades by the financial sector. Because they are very common currencies and most traders right now believe that both the US and JP are stuck with a wide spread in interest rates... you can borrow JPY and invest in USD and make 4-5% on it. As an aside, I also wish we didn't use the terms strong/weak for currencies because it carries a good/bad connotation. It's just high/low and there are pros/cons to each.
- CalRobert 2y agoI have a similar concern as an American living in Europe for the last ten years. It was OK-ish when I could work remote and price myself in USD but given the softness in the software job market and the very weak Euro (combined with very low pay in Europe in general) it does make it harder to consider ever being able to move back.
- bamboozled 2y agoyou can borrow JPY and invest in USD and make 4-5% on it. I have JPY, can I make money on it, or do I need to borrow it? Is the idea here to buy USD, wait for the price to go up, and then sell it back in JPY?
- po 2y agoAs a retail investor, you can do Forex trading or you could do time deposits at a Japanese bank (assuming you live here). SMBC Prestia is offering 6.5% on it right now for example: https://www.smbctb.co.jp/en/timedeposit2404/?icid=24_en_top_td202404_00 https://www.smbctb.co.jp/en/timedeposit2404/?icid=24_en_top_...
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- roenxi 2y agoThis is one of those instances where technical language is misleading. The US dollar is indeed "strong", but it still buys less stuff than it did last year. The gold price is not impressed by this sort of strength. The news is interesting more as commentary on relative policy positions of central banks around monetary supply and how much of that is leaking into international trade. On that topic; I've been watching the US Treasury's "Major Foreign Holders of Treasury Securities" [0] with some interest. There are some very big strategic changes afoot; China doesn't seem particularly willing to take US debt any more. They'd going to be 3rd largest holder soon and now hold less than 10% of the outstanding US treasury debt. [0] https://ticdata.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-center/tic/Documents/slt_table5.html https://ticdata.treasury.gov/resource-center/data-chart-cent...
- xnx 2y ago> The US dollar is indeed "strong", but it still buys less stuff than it did last year. "...Americans can afford to buy more foreign goods and services (including cheaper vacations).
- roenxi 2y agoUnless you're in the habit of taking daily holidays that is practically untrue. The US dollar has been dropping in value at a rate of ~5% per annum for the last few years. And have an official policy of dropping ~2% per annum. So even if it strengthens 10% against the Yen then that just means that someone in Japan will be feeling really poor, but a US dollar still won't be buying as much as a US dollar from a few years ago would have once inflation in both currencies gets factored in. The purchasing power of all the currencies is dropping, it is just the Yen is dropping faster. These are policy choices by the respective governments (although they often don't feel like choices). I'm sure there are a bunch of currency traders making good money and it is certainly possible that US dollars buy more in some places. But it is more likely that a US dollar in 2024 buys less than in 2023 everywhere, because the US government has an official policy of making it so. Over 5 year timelines it is all but a guarantee that they will succeed in their policy. There isn't a global trend where the US dollar buys more than it did some time in the past; it is strengthening against other currencies, not rising in value.
- sampa 2y agoJapan monetary policy is a ponzi scheme waiting to crash been that way for decades
- bamboozled 2y agoDo you have some more info on this, or is this just your opinion ?
- sampa 2y agotheir debt is 230% of GDP when global crisis hits again (pretty soon, I'd say), they will have major problems for now people (carry traders) are happy to borrow yen for 0% and convert and earn 5% in USD, hence the falling yen
- resolutebat 2y agoLike the US, Japan's debt is almost entirely to itself, they can print money to get rid of it. Of course, this won't do the already weak yen any favors.
- sampa 2y agoif only printing money could solve all problems alas, but people don't like inflation
- bamboozled 2y agoJapan has been printing money forever, they have a problem with low inflation? Sorry your comment isn't really lining up with reality.
- sampa 2y agoTrees don't grow to the sky and there's no perpetuum mobile either
- ilikerashers 2y agoFor all the drama in US Politics, you have to admit they run extremely well economically. Quick to keep rates high, good forecasting, good trade policies, good energy policies. Europe is like a kid copying the US homework, trying to make the equations work.
- Moto7451 2y agoThe Federal Reserve (The Fed) is supposed to work independently of the political process which is why we have the same Fed Chair as we did during the Trump years. Ironically this means the Fed Chair keeping rates high is the same one that set a zero base rate. The various Fed leaders operate under the same guise of serving outside the political cycles. They’re still human so they can be swayed by Presidents and obviously have their own political leanings. In general the ability to not listen to politics allows them to make choices that are inconvenient for an election cycle but good for the US economy.
- a_wild_dandan 2y agoFYI, Trump has vowed to purge the executive branch of unloyal employees, aiming for unitary rule during his 2nd term. It’s unclear how much of this his conservative SC majority will allow, but…the norm of stable, institutional independence might be gone soon.
- nebula8804 2y agoAt least we can replace all those Biden stickers next to the gas pumps that say "I did that" with Trump stickers... :/
- Moto7451 2y agoSure, Supreme Court volatility opens that up. The last time his Chairmanship was under threat it was unclear if he could be removed by Trump simply because Trump wanted to so it would require the usual "Do the thing", get sued, take it to the Supreme Court. Such actions aren't instant even for the President, especially if he is busy having them settle his other matters he wants to bring to them. https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/does-the-president-have-legal-authority-to-fire-the-fed-chair https://www.pbs.org/newshour/show/does-the-president-have-le... Also, removing Powell doesn't let any president put someone in who will set whatever rate they want. It must be a member of the Board, of which two are his nominees from his term. They also don't have to listen to him. When it comes to setting rates, Powell is chairman, not supreme leader. The FOMC sets rates and that is a group of twelve. https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/fomc.asp https://www.investopedia.com/terms/f/fomc.asp Given Trump wouldn't see sworn in until 2025 and would have the usual problems of any new President rather than the benefit of a second term, and as Powell was confirmed in 2022, under current case law, Trump at best simply gets to nominate a new chair a number of months before he'd do so in 2026. Powell's single 14 year term on Fed board ends in 2028 so there will be a new Chair no matter what after that. While from a Political standpoint, I don't like what he may do, I am ok with how this is setup. This is not as easy as simply replacing his cabinet members and that is a good thing.
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