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I think it's fair to say that Google is cracking down. They did tolerate activities like this previously, but came down like a hammer on this. It seems like the

I think it's fair to say that Google is cracking down. They did tolerate activities like this previously, but came down like a hammer on this. It seems like they are setting a precedent and giving fair warning to anyone else thinking of doing something similar. Things like this can be viral, as seen with the college protests. And the more enabled they are, the worse they get, as seen with Columbia. And to be fair there has been a big shift in the market for tech workers. There was a sort of indispensable aura that protected tech employees before that just isn't there any more. People who think this sort of thing wouldn't yield a rapid firing are living in the past. There is a video from the participants- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLiWHO71fOU&lc= https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLiWHO71fOU&lc= I find it rather incredible. They end it by announcing that they should all be reinstated because they "did nothing wrong". They repeatedly talk as if they expected just to have their "concerns heard", to get a warning, etc. As an aside, what is with the insane, anti-HN moderation in here? Rational, constructive comments are greyed out because someone's raging bias is countered.

D13Fd 3y ago
> I find it rather incredible. They end it by announcing that they should all be reinstated because they "did nothing wrong". They repeatedly talk as if they expected just to have their "concerns heard", to get a warning, etc. Yeah. This is true "privilege" speaking -- they don't seem to realize how fortunate they were to be in their positions in the first place. Companies employ you because it's a good deal for them. If you're lucky, you find a place where it is a good deal for you too. Protesting and disrupting work changes that calculus for the company. It's no longer a good deal for them, and the unsurprising result is that they don't want to employ such people or hire them back.
- krainboltgreene 3y ago
  > This is true "privilege" speaking -- they don't seem to realize how fortunate they were to be in their positions in the first place. This is an extreme assumption on your part. > Companies employ you because it's a good deal for them. If you're lucky, you find a place where it is a good deal for you too. Protesting and disrupting work changes that calculus for the company. It's no longer a good deal for them, and the unsurprising result is that they won't want to hire such people back. Everytime workers do something collectively there's a dozen people in these threads saying the same thing, as if it's some sort of revelation. Sometimes people do things regardless of what's "expected" to be done to them, hoping for reason and empathy to prevail. That's not a sin and being snide about it isn't helpful.
  - stickfigure 3y ago
    How much reason and empathy were the protesters offering to the people whose offices they occupied?
    - krainboltgreene 3y ago
      An extremely reasonable amount, by all counts, what a strange question.
  - D13Fd 3y ago
    > This is an extreme assumption on your part. It's not. As I said, that's what I take from a video where a string of people had some of the best paying jobs available to any kind of worker, and at one of the most significant companies in the world right now, but don't seem to appreciate how fortunate they were to be in that situation or that they are replaceable. > hoping for reason and empathy to prevail "Reason" is what will get them in trouble here. A reasonable company is unlikely to keep or re-hire disruptive employees when it has other options, and boy does it have other options right now in this tech labor market. > being snide about it isn't helpful. I'm not being snide. They have every right to stand up for what they believe in, and there is something noble in that regardless of whether you agree with their view. I'm just remarking on how these individuals don't seem to realize what they had and what they've likely lost.
    - refulgentis 3y ago
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    - asadotzler 3y ago
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    - krainboltgreene 3y ago
      > I'm just remarking on how these individuals don't seem to realize what they had and what they've likely lost. Why do you keep doing this?
- ParetoOptimal 3y ago
  > Companies employ you because it's a good deal for them. If you're lucky, you find a place where it is a good deal for you too. Toe the line for being underpaid, having bad healthcare, and working for overpaid execs... be grateful you get the chance!
- DangitBobby 3y ago
  Or it can be seen as an extension of the protest, continuing to lash out at Google for making sociopathic decisions (from their perspective) and using all the tools at their disposal to continue to make being evil less attractive.

D13Fd 3y ago

> I find it rather incredible. They end it by announcing that they should all be reinstated because they "did nothing wrong". They repeatedly talk as if they expected just to have their "concerns heard", to get a warning, etc. Yeah. This is true "privilege" speaking -- they don't seem to realize how fortunate they were to be in their positions in the first place. Companies employ you because it's a good deal for them. If you're lucky, you find a place where it is a good deal for you too. Protesting and disrupting work changes that calculus for the company. It's no longer a good deal for them, and the unsurprising result is that they don't want to employ such people or hire them back.

krainboltgreene 3y ago
> This is true "privilege" speaking -- they don't seem to realize how fortunate they were to be in their positions in the first place. This is an extreme assumption on your part. > Companies employ you because it's a good deal for them. If you're lucky, you find a place where it is a good deal for you too. Protesting and disrupting work changes that calculus for the company. It's no longer a good deal for them, and the unsurprising result is that they won't want to hire such people back. Everytime workers do something collectively there's a dozen people in these threads saying the same thing, as if it's some sort of revelation. Sometimes people do things regardless of what's "expected" to be done to them, hoping for reason and empathy to prevail. That's not a sin and being snide about it isn't helpful.
- stickfigure 3y ago
  How much reason and empathy were the protesters offering to the people whose offices they occupied?
  - krainboltgreene 3y ago
    An extremely reasonable amount, by all counts, what a strange question.
- D13Fd 3y ago
  > This is an extreme assumption on your part. It's not. As I said, that's what I take from a video where a string of people had some of the best paying jobs available to any kind of worker, and at one of the most significant companies in the world right now, but don't seem to appreciate how fortunate they were to be in that situation or that they are replaceable. > hoping for reason and empathy to prevail "Reason" is what will get them in trouble here. A reasonable company is unlikely to keep or re-hire disruptive employees when it has other options, and boy does it have other options right now in this tech labor market. > being snide about it isn't helpful. I'm not being snide. They have every right to stand up for what they believe in, and there is something noble in that regardless of whether you agree with their view. I'm just remarking on how these individuals don't seem to realize what they had and what they've likely lost.
  - refulgentis 3y ago
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  - asadotzler 3y ago
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  - krainboltgreene 3y ago
    > I'm just remarking on how these individuals don't seem to realize what they had and what they've likely lost. Why do you keep doing this?
ParetoOptimal 3y ago
> Companies employ you because it's a good deal for them. If you're lucky, you find a place where it is a good deal for you too. Toe the line for being underpaid, having bad healthcare, and working for overpaid execs... be grateful you get the chance!
DangitBobby 3y ago
Or it can be seen as an extension of the protest, continuing to lash out at Google for making sociopathic decisions (from their perspective) and using all the tools at their disposal to continue to make being evil less attractive.