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Aboriginal Linux
- gnabgib 2y agoArticle title & h1: Ab Origine - Latin, "From the beginning"
- beachy 2y agoThough it makes sense, quite a jarring use of the word to Antipodeans, who mostly would say it relates to the native people of Australia.
- senectus1 2y agoyeah that was my shocked first thought.
- datascienced 2y agoAbOrigin would be a better name Although the self hosting thing doesn’t make it an origin in my book. More of a quine? The first Linux release would be the original. As for aboriginal I don’t think the metaphor even works.
- sevagh 2y agoPrimal Linux. Primordial Linux. Prehistoric Linux. Neanderthal Linux
- animaomnium 2y agoGrug Brained Linux.
- senectus1 2y agoAbiogenux?
- dghughes 2y ago"Antipodeans" is more jarring to me what a weird way to describe people. Seems to be mainly Australia and New Zealand but people in Spain would also be Antipodeans to Aus and NZ.
- thejohnconway 2y agoGoing to start calling people in the Northern Hemisphere "podians".
- djbusby 2y agoCommits are from years ago. But still, very cool to have a tiny system that can get far enough to rebuild itself. Not sure where the use case is today, docker has small images and so do other VM based images. Maybe for a mid-level custom build, special NAS or something?
- Brian_K_White 2y agoI think it doesn't need to have a use case. It's low level enough that it's like asking what the use case is for cat. IE, it's a tool or even merely a component, or possibly a reference environment, not a product. (sure it's also kind of a product, it's obviously not litterally equivalent to cat, I'm just saying there is more than one way to look at it) Someone may or may not use it in anger for something some time, but things like this need to already exist before other people can come along later and stick the existing lego blocks together.
- watersb 2y agoA tiny Linux image along the lines of the Docker hosted base. It isn't trying to be a Docker or Alpine, it's just a tiny runnable image. I find it interesting and useful for running an x8_64 Linux under QEMU on my Kindle Fire tablet. Tiny things, test CLI tools. The project's author, Rob Landley, was maintainer for BusyBox for about a year, but disagreed with BusyBox originator Bruce Parens over GPL 3.0 licensing. Landley's current idea of a multi-tool binary for Linux userland, ToyBox, is the basis for this tiny runnable system image. https://landley.net/toybox/ https://landley.net/toybox/
- dgaf33 2y ago[dead]
- kreelman 2y agoWhy no RISC-V? I thought there'd be enough chips around... Virtualisation should be possible to?
- NewJazz 2y agoIt is old. I think toybox has a mkroot tool now.
- imiric 2y agoIndeed. https://github.com/landley/toybox https://github.com/landley/toybox would be a better link to discuss. It's an interesting project. I wasn't aware it also built minimal Linux images. It seems like a great base for a new distro, just bring your own package manager. Nix would be a great fit for this.
- maxloh 2y agoWhy was uClibc chosen over musl? uClibc is unmaintained according to Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UClibc https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UClibc
- silisili 2y agouclibc was spun off by someone else as uclibc-ng with a release just last month. Wikipedia mentions it, but unfortunately squashed the two together haphazardly.
- syene 2y agoSo is Aboriginal: https://github.com/landley/aboriginal/commit/cfb7977cc32a80b20ca0a84616d1f24ca846784c https://github.com/landley/aboriginal/commit/cfb7977cc32a80b...
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- mkj 2y agoAboriginal Linux is older than Musl
- masklinn 2y agoFirst, why not. You could also ask why musl was created at all since uclibc predates it by 11 years. Second, because this project was started during those 11 years, it dates back to 2007 at least: https://github.com/landley/aboriginal/releases/tag/0.3.0 https://github.com/landley/aboriginal/releases/tag/0.3.0
- alexhutcheson 2y agoThe successor project uses musl: https://github.com/landley/toybox/tree/master/mkroot https://github.com/landley/toybox/tree/master/mkroot
- andrewstuart 2y agoYeah that's not going to go down well with first nations Australians. They're sensitive about cultural appropriation, with some justification. I don't think the argument of the Latin origin would be given much heed. Then again, likely no-one will notice a small software project.
- jojobas 2y agoIf you intend to avoid rustling jimmies anywhere in the world you're in for a hard time with your naming.
- Willish42 2y agoYeah... I'm not even Australian and this being some sort of indie OS build made by or for indigenous Australians was my first guess at what this was. I had a similar concern but you stated it way better than I could've. Thanks for doing so Naming is hard.
- chris_wot 2y agoI'm not sure it is too jarring - if they had called it Aborigine Linux then there might have been a small outcry.
- klyrs 2y agoYes and no. Aboriginal peoples world 'round have been displaced and slaughtered. The name conjures all meanings of the word, as is the nature of words, consequently there is a distinct and predictable reflex to associate this name with atrocity in a general sense. Naming is hard. Offense unintended is often perceived as neglect or callousness. Names can change; history cannot.
- viraptor 2y agoThere are other indigenous cultures which use the name, for example Aboriginal Canadians. I'm not sure why any of the groups would care about the naming of the project though. The naming controversies I'm aware of are about the names used for the indigenous people, not completely external names. It feels weird to assume it would be an issue, unless there's some specific cases you have in mind?
- justinclift 2y agoFrom their NEWS page: https://landley.net/aboriginal/news.html https://landley.net/aboriginal/news.html News April 30, 2017 -- End of Line -- Development of Aboriginal Linux has ended, replaced by mkroot.
- binarycrusader 2y agoFrom mkroot page: https://github.com/landley/mkroot This project was merged into toybox in 2020. See the "mkroot" directory in https://github.com/landley/toybox https://github.com/landley/toybox https://github.com/landley/toybox
- tjpnz 2y agoPresumably when a process dies we may never speak its name again?
- defrost 2y agoJust move it to the Kumanjayi PID list and obfuscate with salt for a year.
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