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Signs that times are a' changing -- you can buy illegal drugs with a card now. (Call me crazy and old-fashioned, but I don't think I'd want 50+ illegally-corre
by ethbr1 3y ago
Signs that times are a' changing -- you can buy illegal drugs with a card now.
(Call me crazy and old-fashioned, but I don't think I'd want 50+ illegally-correlated transactions on my financial record that the government could lump into other charges...)
- coffeebeqn 3y agoDo they have jurisdiction to go and do that?
- ethbr1 3y agoIf you get hit with a federal charge and they care enough, federal prosecutors can absolutely dig into your financial records. That said, I imagine it would only get done if they really wanted to throw the book at you...
- biomcgary 3y ago"For my friends, everything. For my enemies, the law."
- denimnerd42 3y agosure they do. for example it's illegal to be in possession of marijuana and a firearm. the purchase of said MJ would be pretty good evidence that could lead to other warrants. That's the Hunter Biden gun charge.
- beaeglebeachh 3y agoIt's oddly not. Only to be a user or addict with a firearm. IIRC if you just like the way weed looks in your hand that doesn't make you a user, and there's plenty of reasonable doubt you're guarding it for grandma or whoever. Of course people are still being convicted of weed and firearm, but it gets recorded as gun law violation and nobody cares, cuz left hates guns and right hates weed, so they'll never repeal it.
- denimnerd42 3y agooh fair enough about the "user" vs possession. but my point was they could possible use this info to get a warrant to surveil you to catch you using it.
- beaeglebeachh 3y agoThey don't need that. I was served a federal search warrant after a detective wrote an anonymous officer claimed an anonymous DOG accused me of wrongdoing. When 3rd order anonymous interspecies hearsay is sufficient for a warrant it means a warrant is just a rubber stamp.
- denimnerd42 3y agofair. its not hard to get a warrant. but your info in the database could still make you a target
- vkou 3y agoEven a rubber-stamp warrant process serves a point, by making the police identify who they are targeting, as opposed to targeting everyone, and deciding who to charge after the fact. Warrants aren't supposed to be hard to get. They are only supposed to stop the most blatant fishing expeditions.
- int_19h 3y agoThe worst part is that the states are quite happy to help the feds enforce this. E.g. Hawaii has both mandatory gun registration and requires a state-issued license for medical marijuana. And if you happen to have both, well: https://www.leafly.com/news/politics/surrender-your-guns-police-tell-hawaiian-medical-marijuana-patients https://www.leafly.com/news/politics/surrender-your-guns-pol... It should also be noted that while DEA is instructed by the executive to not go after cannabis users in states where it's legal for recreational use, there's no equivalent directive issued to ATF.
- vkou 3y ago
- zoklet-enjoyer 3y agoThis is why I'm going to buy a gun to celebrate marijuana moving to schedule 3
- mattmaroon 3y agoThe Silver Platter doctrine prevents your financial institutions from handing over that data unbidden, but they can do so by request from law enforcement.
- red-iron-pine 3y agowhich law enforcement can get, trivially, if they're prosecuting a felony. it's just a function of time and process, and while you can dispose of plants and bury money in your back yard, you can't undo old bank transactions. 20 years later those records may not be a thing, but last year sure will be...
- JojoFatsani 3y agoExcept they’re legal drugs
- somenameforme 3y agoReclassified, not legalized. As per the article it will now be classified along anabolic steroids, ketamine, and other such things.
- red-iron-pine 3y agowhich is to say, still illegal, just that you won't get 25 to life for a few plants. DEA isn't kicking down doors to bust dudes doin 'roids, mostly nailing low-hanging fruit like doctors who blatantly spam fake steroid prescriptions