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Clear issue is that why are these not separate systems or pages entirely. Registering for this process should be entirely separate from using it. And if also pa

by Ekaros 3y ago

Clear issue is that why are these not separate systems or pages entirely. Registering for this process should be entirely separate from using it. And if also paper forms are accepted, whole process should need more tracking from canditate.

joemi 3y ago
For a country whose population is just 399,189 (according to 2024 census), I don't think what you propose is necessary. Edit to add: I'm not sure if you added the "or pages" later or if I just missed it when replying, but my response was specifically about the suggestion that they should be separate systems. Separate pages totally makes sense, and I do think that's a good solution.
- throwway120385 3y ago
  Yeah, it was actually neatly resolved here by applying separation of concerns and just doing the totally different things on different pages. People wanting to endorse a candidate are not the same as people wanting to be a candidate.
simonw 3y ago
They are now - the site was redesigned once this problem became clear!
falcor84 3y ago
That site clearly had UX issues and I'm glad it was redesigned, but I disagree with your statement in principle. I think it would actually be great for democracy if every time you were asked to support some official, you had a call-to-action for taking their role. On that note, I don't see any issue whatsoever with 82 people running for presidency - why not more? "Politics are too serious a matter to be left to politicians" -Charles de Gaulle
- Wowfunhappy 3y ago
  > On that note, I don't see any issue whatsoever with 82 people running for presidency I wouldn't have an issue if the election used ranked choice voting. Otherwise, however, it could be a disaster, with the winning candidate only having a tiny percentage of the vote.
  - saevarom 3y ago
    In Iceland, the president is chosen by simple majority of votes. The sitting president got about 39% of the vote. There were 9 candidates. Of course, this problem is usually brushed off saying that this is a largely powerless office, the prime minister and his cabinet hold the executive power.
    - saulpw 3y ago
      A majority of votes would be 50.1%. More votes than any other candidate is called a plurality.
  - isoos 3y ago
    Nit: Approval voting (yes/no for each candidate) is easier to implement and also understand. I couldn't rank 82 people, but could yes/no them...
    - andersa 3y ago
      As long as you can answer a (long) series of "do you prefer A or B" questions, you can totally rank 82 people.
      - Dylan16807 3y ago
        If I was voting in this election, I'm nearly certain I would not be able to answer that for most of the 82.
        oneeyedpigeon 3y ago
        Well, if there's an A/B pair you can't separate, just pick either at random.

by Ekaros 3y ago

joemi 3y ago

For a country whose population is just 399,189 (according to 2024 census), I don't think what you propose is necessary. Edit to add: I'm not sure if you added the "or pages" later or if I just missed it when replying, but my response was specifically about the suggestion that they should be separate systems. Separate pages totally makes sense, and I do think that's a good solution.

throwway120385 3y ago
Yeah, it was actually neatly resolved here by applying separation of concerns and just doing the totally different things on different pages. People wanting to endorse a candidate are not the same as people wanting to be a candidate.

simonw 3y ago

They are now - the site was redesigned once this problem became clear!

falcor84 3y ago

That site clearly had UX issues and I'm glad it was redesigned, but I disagree with your statement in principle. I think it would actually be great for democracy if every time you were asked to support some official, you had a call-to-action for taking their role. On that note, I don't see any issue whatsoever with 82 people running for presidency - why not more? "Politics are too serious a matter to be left to politicians" -Charles de Gaulle

Wowfunhappy 3y ago
> On that note, I don't see any issue whatsoever with 82 people running for presidency I wouldn't have an issue if the election used ranked choice voting. Otherwise, however, it could be a disaster, with the winning candidate only having a tiny percentage of the vote.
- saevarom 3y ago
  In Iceland, the president is chosen by simple majority of votes. The sitting president got about 39% of the vote. There were 9 candidates. Of course, this problem is usually brushed off saying that this is a largely powerless office, the prime minister and his cabinet hold the executive power.
  - saulpw 3y ago
    A majority of votes would be 50.1%. More votes than any other candidate is called a plurality.
- isoos 3y ago
  Nit: Approval voting (yes/no for each candidate) is easier to implement and also understand. I couldn't rank 82 people, but could yes/no them...
  - andersa 3y ago
    As long as you can answer a (long) series of "do you prefer A or B" questions, you can totally rank 82 people.
    - Dylan16807 3y ago
      If I was voting in this election, I'm nearly certain I would not be able to answer that for most of the 82.
      - oneeyedpigeon 3y ago
        Well, if there's an A/B pair you can't separate, just pick either at random.