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Generative AI could have a paradoxical effect of making slow, human generated content more valuable because the only alternative is free meaninglessness generat

Generative AI could have a paradoxical effect of making slow, human generated content more valuable because the only alternative is free meaninglessness generated from older meaningless free content. The free, machine generated content would converge to something hypnotic and more and more addictive. The meaningful would be seen as valuable enough for people to pay. There would be no in-between.

datadrivenangel 2y ago
This has already started to happen for manufactured goods. Mass-manufactured and cheap but low quality goods are extremely available. People also will pay a premium to some local craftsperson who makes artisanal stuff at an extremely noncompetitive price, often with less technical quality in some regard. The real need is to have trusted brands and harder to game information about those companies, so you can more quickly tell when a company starts submitting to the MBAs and eroding their quality.
- gtirloni 2y ago
  People also will pay a premium to some local craftsperson who makes artisanal stuff I won't, unless it's for the art aspect of it or to help a specific developer/artist that I want to see succeed. But by default, I'll pay a premium for high-quality very precise and reliable consumer goods that undergo strict quality assurance processes, mass produced or not. If artisanal stuff has less quality, I'm not inclided to pay a premium for it in the general case.
  - dan_quixote 2y ago
    >I'll pay a premium for high-quality very precise and reliable consumer goods that undergo strict quality assurance processes How? Every time I find something like this, Private Equity scoops up this company and strips it for parts by the time I want to buy more.
add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
Another side effect is a further loss of privacy if only poisoned content can be searched without being logged into a service that has your full info/credit card. GPT-(n) pollutes the freely searchable internet to shit while a subscription to GPT-(n+1) is sold as the solution.
- kibwen 2y ago
  The end-game of Google-style surveillance capitalism has always been that privacy becomes the exclusive purview of the wealthy. AI is accelerating the trend, but it didn't start us on this path.
  - add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
    It's not helpful to use the fact that the world already sucks to handwave a major force multiplier for the elements that will make it suck much worse much more suddenly.
    - kibwen 2y ago
      Then allow me to be clear that I'm not trying to handwave anything: Google needs to be eliminated, along with the rest of the ad industry.
      - add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
        Advertising is not likely to go anywhere but we do have an opportunity to nurture significant skepticism about AI before it's too late and becomes as entrenched in the world as Google and social media.
        collingreen 2y ago
        You just used "the world already sucks" to wave away their point just like you criticized in the comment they were responding to. :(

datadrivenangel 2y ago

This has already started to happen for manufactured goods. Mass-manufactured and cheap but low quality goods are extremely available. People also will pay a premium to some local craftsperson who makes artisanal stuff at an extremely noncompetitive price, often with less technical quality in some regard. The real need is to have trusted brands and harder to game information about those companies, so you can more quickly tell when a company starts submitting to the MBAs and eroding their quality.

gtirloni 2y ago
People also will pay a premium to some local craftsperson who makes artisanal stuff I won't, unless it's for the art aspect of it or to help a specific developer/artist that I want to see succeed. But by default, I'll pay a premium for high-quality very precise and reliable consumer goods that undergo strict quality assurance processes, mass produced or not. If artisanal stuff has less quality, I'm not inclided to pay a premium for it in the general case.
- dan_quixote 2y ago
  >I'll pay a premium for high-quality very precise and reliable consumer goods that undergo strict quality assurance processes How? Every time I find something like this, Private Equity scoops up this company and strips it for parts by the time I want to buy more.

add-sub-mul-div 2y ago

Another side effect is a further loss of privacy if only poisoned content can be searched without being logged into a service that has your full info/credit card. GPT-(n) pollutes the freely searchable internet to shit while a subscription to GPT-(n+1) is sold as the solution.

kibwen 2y ago
The end-game of Google-style surveillance capitalism has always been that privacy becomes the exclusive purview of the wealthy. AI is accelerating the trend, but it didn't start us on this path.
- add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
  It's not helpful to use the fact that the world already sucks to handwave a major force multiplier for the elements that will make it suck much worse much more suddenly.
  - kibwen 2y ago
    Then allow me to be clear that I'm not trying to handwave anything: Google needs to be eliminated, along with the rest of the ad industry.
    - add-sub-mul-div 2y ago
      Advertising is not likely to go anywhere but we do have an opportunity to nurture significant skepticism about AI before it's too late and becomes as entrenched in the world as Google and social media.
      - collingreen 2y ago
        You just used "the world already sucks" to wave away their point just like you criticized in the comment they were responding to. :(