> If Eastern Europeans are both better programmers (even if you disagree, at least concede that programmers/workers may generally be "better" or "more efficient

> If Eastern Europeans are both better programmers (even if you disagree, at least concede that programmers/workers may generally be "better" or "more efficient" or whatever in some region that's not yours) and much cheaper, and it's not relevant in which geographic location your product comes from, why would you keep your production in a less efficient and more expensive place? The reason why we disagree is because I disagree with free competition on a global scale, and in turn disagree with economic efficiency as a good thing in absolute terms: there is a limit, past which if we become too efficient, it implies too great an abuse of the commons. I don't think we should have global competition for programmers: we should be more locally self-sufficient and face the consequences of our actions in our own backyard. If Eastern European programmers are better, well that is all well and good, but then that IMPLIES that people in your HOME country are NOT becoming programmers, and eventually this chain has to end somewhere, likely with SHIPPING something overseas, which in turn is unsustainable. At some point, this is likely to result in abuse of the common good (biosphere), much more so than if we stayed local. Think about it economically: the only reason why you can even PAY eastern europeans is because your currency can be exchanged for theirs, which means that they probably want some physical product of yours.