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Elon Musk praises Chinese workers for 'burning the 3am oil (May 2022)

5 points by ZuckMusk 2y ago

keikobadthebad 2y ago
From May 2022
mytailorisrich 2y ago
I believe that the Shanghai gigafactory (which actually produces quite of few of the Teslas sold in Europe) was ready in one year. Many people like to hit China but the fact is that China makes things happen and they make them happen quickly. We in Europe really lost that skill. This also probably ties quite well with with Elon's character.
- ZuckMusk 2y ago
  Or maybe poor labour laws in China
- delfinom 2y ago
  If you throw away your life, of course you can make a billionaire richer, even in China.
  - explaingarlic 2y ago
    He does have a point, though. The Chinese labor policy of "more" is strictly benefiting the Chinese economy. Not that it's much of a downside for us; if you live in the west you are competing with people who don't do much outside of 9-5. We have the benefit of having the ability to apply the Chinese "work till you're dead" mindset and gaining a competitive advantage, on an individual scale. It all comes at great human cost of course, but it's not like it's not an effective method.
    - syndicatedjelly 2y ago
      > Not that it's much of a downside for us; if you live in the west you are competing with people who don't do much outside of 9-5. We have the benefit of having the ability to apply the Chinese "work till you're dead" mindset and gaining a competitive advantage, on an individual scale. The weird thing is that if you work at a company where this isn't the norm, then people will ask you to "slow down" or "take it easy". I believed them, until I realized that was their tactic to make sure you don't "steal" credit from them by working harder. On the other hand, if you work at a company where "work always" is the mentality, then it's much harder to do that "one simple trick" where you get more work done by working more.
      - explaingarlic 2y ago
        > until I realized that was their tactic to make sure you don't "steal" credit from them by working harder. Definitely true from a office politics standpoint. And incredibly painful. Not all problems are solvable in the office and this is for sure one of them - when I was in this position, the only thing I could do was switch jobs.

5 points by ZuckMusk 2y ago

From May 2022

I believe that the Shanghai gigafactory (which actually produces quite of few of the Teslas sold in Europe) was ready in one year. Many people like to hit China but the fact is that China makes things happen and they make them happen quickly. We in Europe really lost that skill. This also probably ties quite well with with Elon's character.

ZuckMusk 2y ago
Or maybe poor labour laws in China
delfinom 2y ago
If you throw away your life, of course you can make a billionaire richer, even in China.
- explaingarlic 2y ago
  He does have a point, though. The Chinese labor policy of "more" is strictly benefiting the Chinese economy. Not that it's much of a downside for us; if you live in the west you are competing with people who don't do much outside of 9-5. We have the benefit of having the ability to apply the Chinese "work till you're dead" mindset and gaining a competitive advantage, on an individual scale. It all comes at great human cost of course, but it's not like it's not an effective method.
  - syndicatedjelly 2y ago
    > Not that it's much of a downside for us; if you live in the west you are competing with people who don't do much outside of 9-5. We have the benefit of having the ability to apply the Chinese "work till you're dead" mindset and gaining a competitive advantage, on an individual scale. The weird thing is that if you work at a company where this isn't the norm, then people will ask you to "slow down" or "take it easy". I believed them, until I realized that was their tactic to make sure you don't "steal" credit from them by working harder. On the other hand, if you work at a company where "work always" is the mentality, then it's much harder to do that "one simple trick" where you get more work done by working more.
    - explaingarlic 2y ago
      > until I realized that was their tactic to make sure you don't "steal" credit from them by working harder. Definitely true from a office politics standpoint. And incredibly painful. Not all problems are solvable in the office and this is for sure one of them - when I was in this position, the only thing I could do was switch jobs.