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Keep Out – WebGL Game

442 points by memalign 2y ago

hu3 2y ago
More info here: https://www.littleworkshop.fr/projects/keepout/ https://www.littleworkshop.fr/projects/keepout/ It uses Three.js.
- tarruda 2y ago
  Is the source code available somewhere?
- keyle 2y ago
  Most things from that website have been linked on HN in the last few days. They clearly do great, inspiring work.
Tyr42 2y ago
Enemies only have shadows but no model. Chrome pixel 7.
MikeTheGreat 2y ago
Thanks for posting this - it's a lot of fun to play, in a casual and fun way. Also, this reminded me that I hadn't played my Rogule [1]for today, so I'll go do that, too :) [1] https://rogule.com/game.html https://rogule.com/game.html
BatFastard 2y ago
cool, but stopped working as soon as I hit the shop entrance. Just black screen.
- lukan 2y ago
  Browser (version) and OS would be probably helpful.
  - Mountain_Skies 2y ago
    For me, the same thing happens on Firefox 125.0.2 (64-bit).
- modeless 2y ago
  I found the same, in my case it was fixed by resizing the window. Seems like a bug when the window aspect ratio is portrait instead of landscape.
sho_hn 2y ago
WebGL for games is so awesome for low-friction deployment. As a rainy weekend hack I did a quick and dirty port of a fan decompile of the original Tomb Raider to WASM/WebGL a few weeks ago: https://eikehein.com/stuff/sabatu/ https://eikehein.com/stuff/sabatu/ (this uses alternative fan assets inspired by TR1) The TR community has a couple of websites hosting lots of great fan levels, I'm hoping to make this good enough to allow playing them straight from the browser at some point.
- tzot 2y ago
  So, arrow keys, SPACE un/holsters weapons, End flip 180°, Del/PgDn for strafe left/right. How do you fire the weapons?
  - sho_hn 2y ago
    ESC to go to the menu and see (and change) the controls mapping actually works!
- spxneo 2y ago
  holy crap! how was this built hope to see some code
Animats 2y ago
A Doom tribute game. Nice. Worked fine, cleared five levels, bored.
- lovegrenoble 2y ago
  Same for me...
- mattbee 2y ago
  Ooof make me feel old why don't you... this isn't Doom, it's Dungeon Master! The grid system, everything moving on a metronome, inventory system etc. I agree this version is shallow but very easy to pick up. Legend Of Grimrock is the modern remake I know, drags you into its complexities level by level. Really good game.
- flykespice 2y ago
  You aren't missing much, the game only goes up to level 15 (yes I played the entire thing)
- hgs3 2y ago
  The levels are more Wolfenstein 3D than Doom.
  - Narishma 2y ago
    It's neither, more like Dungeon Master or Eye of the Beholder.
airstrike 2y ago
really cool... amazing that you can get playing immediately controls could use some work. i'd rather move with wasd, turn around with the mouse and attack with the mouse too because it's a first-person camera... or make A and D turn-and-move in that direction with some other input for strafing which seems less useful than turning. and in any event, attacking with something like j, k or l is probably more intuitive (to me)
p0w3n3d 2y ago
Where's Adria the Witch. I have a wand to recharge
- __s 2y ago
  Wand not having charges makes it seem like the best thing to rush. Income per level went way down after buying bow Melee knockback always a tossup, especially since freeze can be chained, goes much nicer on Windforce Observed pacman glitch: running towards projectile can cause it to miss
lovegrenoble 2y ago
Wonderful graphics, but I rather like browser puzzle games (while half-listening to a Zoom meeting) like this one: https://slices.ovh https://slices.ovh
- sharktomato 2y ago
  [flagged]
declan_roberts 2y ago
It was a fun distraction. That you for share!
- imp0cat 2y ago
  Yeah, I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would.
bilsbie 2y ago
Neat! What’s the easiest way to make something like this?
- Dansvidania 2y ago
  I think both Unity and Godot have ways to compile to WebGL. I don't have direct experience with Godot, but in Unity this would be relatively simple to do.
  - modeless 2y ago
    If this was made with Unity it would load a lot slower and perform worse. Unity is not a good fit for web. Godot might be better, I'm not sure. PlayCanvas is an option.
- xandrius 2y ago
  Probably unity, this kind of game isn't too complicated. It's mainly making it feel good and look neat with graphics and VFX. If you went for the pure browser way, Babylon.js would be your best bet. It has a bit of a learning curve, as you would need to implement base game features yourself but it wouldn't take too long for something like this.
IshKebab 2y ago
Terribly boring but super polished!
ww520 2y ago
This is an amazing game. Nice work! May be adding mouse control? Turning with arrow keys are kind of clunky.
- gschizas 2y ago
  Since it was apparently made 9 years ago (2015), it's highly unlikely.
KTaffer 2y ago
Good graphics, but it's almost impossible to fail. Not a good game.
throwawayben 2y ago
Nice rogue-lite, got to level 10 before dying multiple times and giving up
xandrius 2y ago
For me, on Firefox Android, the game worked beautifully (it got stuck at a certain point - no movement/actions accepted anymore but the visuals and menu worked). I got to level 12 and had purchased everything, so I felt I had nothing else to strive for. Great variety of enemies and attacks. Loved the different weapons and how they "evolve". If would be fun to have the frozen ward being able to nullify the fireballs, as it seemed an obvious consequence. I think after unlocking all the base weapons, it would be fun to move up and be able to access "epic" sets (not just money locked, so you don't see them until you buy the other ones). Also expected to have some "hidden" treasure rooms but even trying no walls broke, even with bombs. Might be nice to have a boss fight every 5 level, often it's done by taking the base enemies and making them huge and harder. If I had a reason (like reach level X to save the princess, or reach the center of the earth or something else), I would have kept playing but after level 10 and everything unlocked, I thought maybe the game was over. I really enjoyed the experience! The graphics were great, just the level cleared text seemed lower quality than the rest (maybe a font rendering problem?). Great job!
- fellowniusmonk 2y ago
  This is insanely good, as someone who hates mobile gaming outside of pixel dungeon this is probably the first 3d shooter game I've enjoyed playing on my phone where the control and game play felt good, the fact that it's in the browser is fantastic.
- zaik 2y ago
  Interesting. I'm using Fennec from F-Droid and only got controls and a black screen.
jasonjmcghee 2y ago
Fun! One tweak I'd make is not full healing the player on every level. It would make the potions much more useful.
bredren 2y ago
This worked in normal mobile safari but when I added it to Home Screen, and turned landscape it squeezed the gameplay into the left third of the screen. The game overlays, however, displayed undistorted, in their correct positions.
VelesDude 2y ago
That is very cool, played far more than I thought I would. Great job! I always found it funny when you would leave the store it would have this fade out/shrink animation. It is the same transition I have on my desktop windows and for a moment I kept thinking it was about to crash. ;)
cheeterLee 2y ago
Very much enjoyed the game :)
petermcneeley 2y ago
Simple and clean. Very nice. Loads instantly.
birdgoose 2y ago
That was a really good experience. The "About" button in the menu leads to a webpage that 404s. As another commenter has pointed out the correct URL is https://www.littleworkshop.fr/projects/keepout/ https://www.littleworkshop.fr/projects/keepout/
- franck 2y ago
  Thank you for the bug report, I just fixed it.
kibwen 2y ago
If this style of game is up your alley but you're looking for a more complete experience, then the Legend Of Grimrock series is what you're looking for: https://store.steampowered.com/sub/49358/ https://store.steampowered.com/sub/49358/
- TheGRS 2y ago
  Reminded me of Grimrock too, but if you also like this I'd recommend a game called Barony. Great multiplayer RPG romp that has a lot of depth and secrets to discover. Also procedurally generated.
- debo_ 2y ago
  Potato Flowers in Full Bloom is a recent indie turn-based dungeon crawler and it's really, really great. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1601280/Potato_Flowers_in_Full_Bloom/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1601280/Potato_Flowers_in...
- emmanueloga_ 2y ago
  The genre is called "first person dangeon crawler" https://dungeoncrawlers.org/ https://dungeoncrawlers.org/
  - thaumasiotes 2y ago
    Actually the genre is called dungeon blobber. Dungeon crawler is a much wider field than blobber is.
    - badsectoracula 2y ago
      The linked game is a dungeon crawler, not a blobber. A blobber implies that you control a party that acts as a single "blob" in game space - games like Might & Magic, Wizardry, Wizards & Warriors (the 2000 game) etc. are blobbers since you control an entire party but not the individual party members (so a game like Dragon Age isn't a blobber despite controlling a party because each party member is its own individual entity in the game world). A dungeon crawler can be a blobber but not all dungeon crawlers are blobbers: if you control a single character - like in the linked game - the game is not a blobber. Note that also not all first person games where you control a party are blobbers: for example games like the classic Gold Box games (e.g. Pool of Radiance) are not blobbers since while you have first person exploration and a party to manage, combat switches to a 3rd person isometric-ish perspective where each party member is an individual entity that is controlled separately. Though some people may say that games like Gold Box have blobber exploration and non-blobber combat. Also FWIW (and this is something the authors of the linked site above acknowledge too), not all dungeon crawlers and blobbers use a grid-based system for movement and combat: classic examples would be Might & Magic 6 and Wizards & Warriors, both of which are blobbers (the entire party acts as a single "blob" in the game world) but use free movement.
zamadatix 2y ago
For Chromium based browsers you can use getLayoutMap() instead of prompting the user and then rely on the manual fallback for Safari/Firefox/Other unsupported browsers. In either case, detecting/asking for the layout makes sense for displaying the controls graphics but you should still ultimately use the keycodes for positional keys in the actual code so someone on the misdetected or on an unlisted layout can still use the positional keys as expected.
- mkl 2y ago
  This API doesn't know what my keyboard layout is, and there's no way it possibly could; it's in the keyboard's firmware, not software. Better than a fallible API that didn't exist when this was made, or a way-too-limited layout choice, would be to make it work well with arrow keys and mouse (arrows already do the basic movement), or to make the 6-key instruction screen configurable.
  - zamadatix 2y ago
    Adding configurability is a good additional option (even outside the layout detection) but because people like different layouts not because a few HN style folks break OS detection via custom firmware. It's certainly not a reasonable cause to redesign your control scheme around the limitation either. Something of 10%+ of internet users don't use qwerty, something of 0.01% set their layout via the keyboard's firmware. Good note on the game being released ~2015 though, the API wasn't added until ~2018.
headsman771 2y ago
No enemy textures loaded for me on Brave Android though their shadows were visible. Some wall texture glitches on the 1st level but otherwise nice.
sshine 2y ago
Fun, until I reached the dragons. Those jerks seem unbeatable!
- flykespice 2y ago
  I beat them all just by spamming bombs.
russellbeattie 2y ago
This game must have been around for a while. The menu page has a button to share on Google+.
pyb 2y ago
Does anyone remember Pyramid of Peril (1985)?
teddyh 2y ago
If the browser window is taller than it is wide, the shop is an entirely black screen.
Tokkemon 2y ago
This is super cool and it's great! I enjoyed my brief try in the browser. Couple feedback points: I really hate the health system. I wish it was clearer how much health the potion recovered. I'd almost have it more like a traditional unit-like health bar and the potions recover one unit. Also having the R key so close to the movement keys made me press it in a panic several times when trying to move away. ALso allowing you to use a potion when your health is full feels really cheap. Also what about purchasing such items in the store after each level? I never really got used to the strict 90 degrees movement and my fingers constantly got confused between strafe and turn. But I'm sure I'd get used to it in time. I'm more used to the FPS movement when this is more of an arcade-style setup. For the map, I'd recommend holding the TAB key to show it, so it's just for quick glances. Would have appreciated a little more variety in the props, though I only played to level 8, so I'm sure more gets introduced. There were new enemy types all the time which was nice.
- jamilton 2y ago
  I like the map being a toggle, because I could navigate by looking at the map while I move around (helps with that confusion). The 3d view is needed to see items, pots, and enemies, and that's fine, but ideally those would show on the map too.
- blagie 2y ago
  FWIW: I also enjoyed the game. I also got confused between strafe and turn, and often did things like bombs by accident. My additional feedback: * I got to level 13 or 14, and then got bored. There was no way to save, and it wasn't clear if it went on. Does it repeat forever? Is there an end. * What would also be helpful is to understand the purpose. This type of game is the type of game I often see developed as a kids' project, where in a camp or similar, a senior developer sets up an API designed to make it easy, generates all the artwork, and then kids code the high-level logic. If it were open-source, perhaps it'd be that? Perhaps it's intended to be commercialized with more development (that'd be tough with a million similar apps)? Perhaps it's intended as publicity for the coding shop? That would be helpful to understand too when looking for feedback or when visiting.
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hchak 2y ago
I have already sent this to all my buddies. I thought about generative games, so that one game could be made, and each individual gets their own experience. Well done!
thepra 2y ago
I'm on an ZenFone 10 with Firefox and I can only see the menu UI, everything else is black
pryelluw 2y ago
Nice game and very smooth. The graphics works very well on mobile. Wish there was a non-procedural version to memorize.
popcar2 2y ago
Fun concept, really makes me want to play Legend of Grimrock 2 again. I don't know if the devs are here, but here's my feedback: * The wand's cooldown is way too low. It has infinite charge so there's no consequence to stunning enemies, attacking them, moving backwards, repeating. You can effectively stunlock any enemy. * Dragon's attack speed is almost instant. There should be an attack animation before it shoots a fireball, right now it feels like it's faster than any melee enemy. Ranged units should be manageable when they're close. * A dungeoncrawler needs traps. Where are the floor spikes, wall axes, giant rolling stone balls? It needs it. * The "Read more about this project" links to a 404, I guess this is an old project.
- kevindamm 2y ago
  and at least one mimic right around when the player is starting to get confident :)
- franck 2y ago
  Yes this is an old project that we did back in 2015, but thank you for the broken link report, I just fixed it. Also, thanks for your feedback (which I agree with!) but we currently have no plans to update it.
nickagliano 2y ago
Most fun game on HN since Infinite Craft. Worked well on iOS Safari. Installed as PWA and everything. Managed to keep my attention for 5 levels. Nice work.
atleastoptimal 2y ago
Very polished and smooth but it feels a bit shallow. So far I imagine the gameplay is limited to moving forward and strafing through progressively longer dungeons. There is a charm to the first-person element and limiting movement to a grid, but the controls feel slow and are frustrating relative to FPS movement or a top-down action RPG Diablo style layout/controls. It was annoying waiting for each animation to finish between alternatively walking/turning/strafing.
hpeter 2y ago
when the screen is smaller than 930px width, its all black for me
verse 2y ago
I loved this game! I played until level 13 and unlocked and bought every weapon
StarlaAtNight 2y ago
I love that Google+ is included in the "share this to social" functionality. Very retro
epolanski 2y ago
Slightly OT. Why did browser gaming ended up having such low variety and no "hits" for so long?
- modeless 2y ago
  No in-app purchase for monetization. IAP whales drive the whole mobile game ecosystem.
  - sublinear 2y ago
    From a business perspective I don't really agree. The market for other types of players is there and it's far from niche. It's more like making games for them isn't as lucrative. Still pays well for sure, but you can make the same or better working in a corporate office like everyone else. Ironically, office drones are probably the ones who most want to make and play these games.
- badsectoracula 2y ago
  Flash games and to a lesser extent Java applet games used to be very hot. Back in 2005 or so i paid rent with a game i made in literally an afternoon in Java. However the largely "casual" market who played these games switched to mobile phones and any remaining "hardcore" players switched to Steam, which in meantime opened up to developers. And from a technical side, it took years for web tech to reach what you could do with Flash when the latter was forcibly killed.
datascienced 2y ago
You can die and respawn on level 5 kill all the monsters and be left keyless and stuck.
jmward01 2y ago
That was fun. Thanks for making it!
publicpayable 2y ago
[flagged]
- lwansbrough 2y ago
  You're going to have to do better than this.
razodactyl 2y ago
It's broken on iOS. It asks to turn to landscape but the screen doesn't expand.
jverrecchia 2y ago
Worth noting that this is not a new game, it came out in 2015.
- lenerdenator 2y ago
  Yeah, noticed the Google+ link in the menu and was like "oh, we're getting into some history here".
manny_408__ 2y ago
Super cool
keepamovin 2y ago
This is super fun! I'm no expert in games like this but I think everything is perfect. I wouldn't change anything. It all feels really intuitive fun and it's clear you've put a lot of thought into it. I'd say the experience is already optimized :) Can you tell a little bit about the creation process? Is it a team? What did you user to build this and create the textures and and characters?
vivzkestrel 2y ago
let me use the mouse and turn, the 90 degree movement is getting me killed after level 5
trothamel 2y ago
I'm not as huge fan of the controls. I have five fingers on my left hand, and there are six buttons there, so I'm constantly moving them around, while my right hand doesn't do much. Maybe figure out a way to use both hands?
- dylan604 2y ago
  aren't these pretty stock keys for game play? i'm not a heavy gamer by any stretch of the imagination, but these controls are very familiar to me from the few games i have played
- kipple 2y ago
  +1, arrow keys for turning pls
  - mkl 2y ago
    They already do that.
- SpaceElephant 2y ago
  The controls are indeed clunky, but also the reason why this game became an instant hit with my six year old! Simple to explain, simple to operate!
- squigz 2y ago
  I don't think you're ever expected to hit all 6 keys at once?
sidcool 2y ago
This is an old game, I finished it multiple times long back.
sgt 2y ago
Whenever a WebGL game is released, there's tons of browser issues across many different types of devices. It seemed to work for me (iOS) but just read the comments. It would really make me think twice about developing a web game.
- modeless 2y ago
  PC games have as many if not more issues than web games even when running on only one platform (Windows). Every major PC release has tons of issues.
  - pjmlp 2y ago
    The big difference is that on PC, there are ways to work around, with the browser one is usually stuck, and that is if the system isn't blacklisted to start with.
midzer 2y ago
Great game, really fun to play!
pjmlp 2y ago
Usually WebGL games aren't that great, this one however, is a great exception, and an enjoyment to play. Great work.
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hgyjnbdet 2y ago
This excellent. My 6 year old is loving it on his tablet. Compared to the crap you get in the app stores this is amazing. No ads every time you touch the screen, decent graphics, progress without being forced to watch ads or pay. Kudos.
guigui 2y ago
Author here, not sure why this is posted today as this project is from 2015, but feel free check out our latest WebGL project if you liked Keep Out: https://equinox.space https://equinox.space EDIT: thanks for all the great feedback!
- febed 2y ago
  I loved equinox, are there plans for more levels? btw, I couldn’t play Keep Out on iPad. I guess it assumes that a keyboard is available
  - guigui 2y ago
    Thanks, there are no such plans at the moment. Yes, we relied on UA-based mobile detection which worked back then but a few years ago Apple stopped treating iPadOS as mobile, and we never patched this.
- maxlin 2y ago
  Saw the dungeon one back then, but played it "through" now (level 12, supposed it doesn't end). Also played thru equinox. Nice. Tight packages both!
  - guigui 2y ago
    It does end at level 15. Congrats on finishing Equinox!
- KingOfCoders 2y ago
  If this is from 2015, any plans to open source?
  - guigui 2y ago
    Not at the moment, but thanks for your interest.
- Intox 2y ago
  Really cool experience, sharing it around! Would you care to share the game's music somewhere? Really hits me, i'd like to put theses in my playlists
timeon 2y ago
Nice game! Smooth even on slow connection. Maybe bit too easy. I was used to games that killed me at the beginning on a first try.
kuon 2y ago
Please, let me change my key bindings. I always use S to move forward and W to move backward. But otherwise it is super cool.
IvanK_net 2y ago
It reminds me my WebGL First-Person-Shooter https://dinohunt2.ivank.net https://dinohunt2.ivank.net that I made 10 years ago :)
developer1000 2y ago
love it. the sound work great!

442 points by memalign 2y ago

hu3 2y ago

More info here: https://www.littleworkshop.fr/projects/keepout/ https://www.littleworkshop.fr/projects/keepout/ It uses Three.js.

tarruda 2y ago
Is the source code available somewhere?
keyle 2y ago
Most things from that website have been linked on HN in the last few days. They clearly do great, inspiring work.

Tyr42 2y ago

Enemies only have shadows but no model. Chrome pixel 7.

MikeTheGreat 2y ago

Thanks for posting this - it's a lot of fun to play, in a casual and fun way. Also, this reminded me that I hadn't played my Rogule [1]for today, so I'll go do that, too :) [1] https://rogule.com/game.html https://rogule.com/game.html

BatFastard 2y ago

cool, but stopped working as soon as I hit the shop entrance. Just black screen.

lukan 2y ago
Browser (version) and OS would be probably helpful.
- Mountain_Skies 2y ago
  For me, the same thing happens on Firefox 125.0.2 (64-bit).
modeless 2y ago
I found the same, in my case it was fixed by resizing the window. Seems like a bug when the window aspect ratio is portrait instead of landscape.

sho_hn 2y ago

WebGL for games is so awesome for low-friction deployment. As a rainy weekend hack I did a quick and dirty port of a fan decompile of the original Tomb Raider to WASM/WebGL a few weeks ago: https://eikehein.com/stuff/sabatu/ https://eikehein.com/stuff/sabatu/ (this uses alternative fan assets inspired by TR1) The TR community has a couple of websites hosting lots of great fan levels, I'm hoping to make this good enough to allow playing them straight from the browser at some point.

tzot 2y ago
So, arrow keys, SPACE un/holsters weapons, End flip 180°, Del/PgDn for strafe left/right. How do you fire the weapons?
- sho_hn 2y ago
  ESC to go to the menu and see (and change) the controls mapping actually works!
spxneo 2y ago
holy crap! how was this built hope to see some code

Animats 2y ago

A Doom tribute game. Nice. Worked fine, cleared five levels, bored.

lovegrenoble 2y ago
Same for me...
mattbee 2y ago
Ooof make me feel old why don't you... this isn't Doom, it's Dungeon Master! The grid system, everything moving on a metronome, inventory system etc. I agree this version is shallow but very easy to pick up. Legend Of Grimrock is the modern remake I know, drags you into its complexities level by level. Really good game.
flykespice 2y ago
You aren't missing much, the game only goes up to level 15 (yes I played the entire thing)
hgs3 2y ago
The levels are more Wolfenstein 3D than Doom.
- Narishma 2y ago
  It's neither, more like Dungeon Master or Eye of the Beholder.

airstrike 2y ago

really cool... amazing that you can get playing immediately controls could use some work. i'd rather move with wasd, turn around with the mouse and attack with the mouse too because it's a first-person camera... or make A and D turn-and-move in that direction with some other input for strafing which seems less useful than turning. and in any event, attacking with something like j, k or l is probably more intuitive (to me)

p0w3n3d 2y ago

Where's Adria the Witch. I have a wand to recharge

__s 2y ago
Wand not having charges makes it seem like the best thing to rush. Income per level went way down after buying bow Melee knockback always a tossup, especially since freeze can be chained, goes much nicer on Windforce Observed pacman glitch: running towards projectile can cause it to miss

lovegrenoble 2y ago

Wonderful graphics, but I rather like browser puzzle games (while half-listening to a Zoom meeting) like this one: https://slices.ovh https://slices.ovh

sharktomato 2y ago
[flagged]

declan_roberts 2y ago

It was a fun distraction. That you for share!

imp0cat 2y ago
Yeah, I enjoyed it a lot more than I thought I would.

bilsbie 2y ago

Neat! What’s the easiest way to make something like this?

Dansvidania 2y ago
I think both Unity and Godot have ways to compile to WebGL. I don't have direct experience with Godot, but in Unity this would be relatively simple to do.
- modeless 2y ago
  If this was made with Unity it would load a lot slower and perform worse. Unity is not a good fit for web. Godot might be better, I'm not sure. PlayCanvas is an option.
xandrius 2y ago
Probably unity, this kind of game isn't too complicated. It's mainly making it feel good and look neat with graphics and VFX. If you went for the pure browser way, Babylon.js would be your best bet. It has a bit of a learning curve, as you would need to implement base game features yourself but it wouldn't take too long for something like this.

IshKebab 2y ago

Terribly boring but super polished!

ww520 2y ago

This is an amazing game. Nice work! May be adding mouse control? Turning with arrow keys are kind of clunky.

gschizas 2y ago
Since it was apparently made 9 years ago (2015), it's highly unlikely.

KTaffer 2y ago

Good graphics, but it's almost impossible to fail. Not a good game.

throwawayben 2y ago

Nice rogue-lite, got to level 10 before dying multiple times and giving up

xandrius 2y ago

For me, on Firefox Android, the game worked beautifully (it got stuck at a certain point - no movement/actions accepted anymore but the visuals and menu worked). I got to level 12 and had purchased everything, so I felt I had nothing else to strive for. Great variety of enemies and attacks. Loved the different weapons and how they "evolve". If would be fun to have the frozen ward being able to nullify the fireballs, as it seemed an obvious consequence. I think after unlocking all the base weapons, it would be fun to move up and be able to access "epic" sets (not just money locked, so you don't see them until you buy the other ones). Also expected to have some "hidden" treasure rooms but even trying no walls broke, even with bombs. Might be nice to have a boss fight every 5 level, often it's done by taking the base enemies and making them huge and harder. If I had a reason (like reach level X to save the princess, or reach the center of the earth or something else), I would have kept playing but after level 10 and everything unlocked, I thought maybe the game was over. I really enjoyed the experience! The graphics were great, just the level cleared text seemed lower quality than the rest (maybe a font rendering problem?). Great job!

fellowniusmonk 2y ago
This is insanely good, as someone who hates mobile gaming outside of pixel dungeon this is probably the first 3d shooter game I've enjoyed playing on my phone where the control and game play felt good, the fact that it's in the browser is fantastic.
zaik 2y ago
Interesting. I'm using Fennec from F-Droid and only got controls and a black screen.

jasonjmcghee 2y ago

Fun! One tweak I'd make is not full healing the player on every level. It would make the potions much more useful.

bredren 2y ago

This worked in normal mobile safari but when I added it to Home Screen, and turned landscape it squeezed the gameplay into the left third of the screen. The game overlays, however, displayed undistorted, in their correct positions.

VelesDude 2y ago

That is very cool, played far more than I thought I would. Great job! I always found it funny when you would leave the store it would have this fade out/shrink animation. It is the same transition I have on my desktop windows and for a moment I kept thinking it was about to crash. ;)

cheeterLee 2y ago

Very much enjoyed the game :)

petermcneeley 2y ago

Simple and clean. Very nice. Loads instantly.

birdgoose 2y ago

That was a really good experience. The "About" button in the menu leads to a webpage that 404s. As another commenter has pointed out the correct URL is https://www.littleworkshop.fr/projects/keepout/ https://www.littleworkshop.fr/projects/keepout/

franck 2y ago
Thank you for the bug report, I just fixed it.

kibwen 2y ago

If this style of game is up your alley but you're looking for a more complete experience, then the Legend Of Grimrock series is what you're looking for: https://store.steampowered.com/sub/49358/ https://store.steampowered.com/sub/49358/

TheGRS 2y ago
Reminded me of Grimrock too, but if you also like this I'd recommend a game called Barony. Great multiplayer RPG romp that has a lot of depth and secrets to discover. Also procedurally generated.
debo_ 2y ago
Potato Flowers in Full Bloom is a recent indie turn-based dungeon crawler and it's really, really great. https://store.steampowered.com/app/1601280/Potato_Flowers_in_Full_Bloom/ https://store.steampowered.com/app/1601280/Potato_Flowers_in...
emmanueloga_ 2y ago
The genre is called "first person dangeon crawler" https://dungeoncrawlers.org/ https://dungeoncrawlers.org/
- thaumasiotes 2y ago
  Actually the genre is called dungeon blobber. Dungeon crawler is a much wider field than blobber is.
  - badsectoracula 2y ago
    The linked game is a dungeon crawler, not a blobber. A blobber implies that you control a party that acts as a single "blob" in game space - games like Might & Magic, Wizardry, Wizards & Warriors (the 2000 game) etc. are blobbers since you control an entire party but not the individual party members (so a game like Dragon Age isn't a blobber despite controlling a party because each party member is its own individual entity in the game world). A dungeon crawler can be a blobber but not all dungeon crawlers are blobbers: if you control a single character - like in the linked game - the game is not a blobber. Note that also not all first person games where you control a party are blobbers: for example games like the classic Gold Box games (e.g. Pool of Radiance) are not blobbers since while you have first person exploration and a party to manage, combat switches to a 3rd person isometric-ish perspective where each party member is an individual entity that is controlled separately. Though some people may say that games like Gold Box have blobber exploration and non-blobber combat. Also FWIW (and this is something the authors of the linked site above acknowledge too), not all dungeon crawlers and blobbers use a grid-based system for movement and combat: classic examples would be Might & Magic 6 and Wizards & Warriors, both of which are blobbers (the entire party acts as a single "blob" in the game world) but use free movement.

zamadatix 2y ago

For Chromium based browsers you can use getLayoutMap() instead of prompting the user and then rely on the manual fallback for Safari/Firefox/Other unsupported browsers. In either case, detecting/asking for the layout makes sense for displaying the controls graphics but you should still ultimately use the keycodes for positional keys in the actual code so someone on the misdetected or on an unlisted layout can still use the positional keys as expected.

mkl 2y ago
This API doesn't know what my keyboard layout is, and there's no way it possibly could; it's in the keyboard's firmware, not software. Better than a fallible API that didn't exist when this was made, or a way-too-limited layout choice, would be to make it work well with arrow keys and mouse (arrows already do the basic movement), or to make the 6-key instruction screen configurable.
- zamadatix 2y ago
  Adding configurability is a good additional option (even outside the layout detection) but because people like different layouts not because a few HN style folks break OS detection via custom firmware. It's certainly not a reasonable cause to redesign your control scheme around the limitation either. Something of 10%+ of internet users don't use qwerty, something of 0.01% set their layout via the keyboard's firmware. Good note on the game being released ~2015 though, the API wasn't added until ~2018.

headsman771 2y ago

No enemy textures loaded for me on Brave Android though their shadows were visible. Some wall texture glitches on the 1st level but otherwise nice.

sshine 2y ago

Fun, until I reached the dragons. Those jerks seem unbeatable!

flykespice 2y ago
I beat them all just by spamming bombs.

russellbeattie 2y ago

This game must have been around for a while. The menu page has a button to share on Google+.

pyb 2y ago

Does anyone remember Pyramid of Peril (1985)?

teddyh 2y ago

If the browser window is taller than it is wide, the shop is an entirely black screen.

Tokkemon 2y ago

This is super cool and it's great! I enjoyed my brief try in the browser. Couple feedback points: I really hate the health system. I wish it was clearer how much health the potion recovered. I'd almost have it more like a traditional unit-like health bar and the potions recover one unit. Also having the R key so close to the movement keys made me press it in a panic several times when trying to move away. ALso allowing you to use a potion when your health is full feels really cheap. Also what about purchasing such items in the store after each level? I never really got used to the strict 90 degrees movement and my fingers constantly got confused between strafe and turn. But I'm sure I'd get used to it in time. I'm more used to the FPS movement when this is more of an arcade-style setup. For the map, I'd recommend holding the TAB key to show it, so it's just for quick glances. Would have appreciated a little more variety in the props, though I only played to level 8, so I'm sure more gets introduced. There were new enemy types all the time which was nice.

jamilton 2y ago
I like the map being a toggle, because I could navigate by looking at the map while I move around (helps with that confusion). The 3d view is needed to see items, pots, and enemies, and that's fine, but ideally those would show on the map too.
blagie 2y ago
FWIW: I also enjoyed the game. I also got confused between strafe and turn, and often did things like bombs by accident. My additional feedback: * I got to level 13 or 14, and then got bored. There was no way to save, and it wasn't clear if it went on. Does it repeat forever? Is there an end. * What would also be helpful is to understand the purpose. This type of game is the type of game I often see developed as a kids' project, where in a camp or similar, a senior developer sets up an API designed to make it easy, generates all the artwork, and then kids code the high-level logic. If it were open-source, perhaps it'd be that? Perhaps it's intended to be commercialized with more development (that'd be tough with a million similar apps)? Perhaps it's intended as publicity for the coding shop? That would be helpful to understand too when looking for feedback or when visiting.
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hchak 2y ago

I have already sent this to all my buddies. I thought about generative games, so that one game could be made, and each individual gets their own experience. Well done!

thepra 2y ago

I'm on an ZenFone 10 with Firefox and I can only see the menu UI, everything else is black

pryelluw 2y ago

Nice game and very smooth. The graphics works very well on mobile. Wish there was a non-procedural version to memorize.

popcar2 2y ago

Fun concept, really makes me want to play Legend of Grimrock 2 again. I don't know if the devs are here, but here's my feedback: * The wand's cooldown is way too low. It has infinite charge so there's no consequence to stunning enemies, attacking them, moving backwards, repeating. You can effectively stunlock any enemy. * Dragon's attack speed is almost instant. There should be an attack animation before it shoots a fireball, right now it feels like it's faster than any melee enemy. Ranged units should be manageable when they're close. * A dungeoncrawler needs traps. Where are the floor spikes, wall axes, giant rolling stone balls? It needs it. * The "Read more about this project" links to a 404, I guess this is an old project.

kevindamm 2y ago
and at least one mimic right around when the player is starting to get confident :)
franck 2y ago
Yes this is an old project that we did back in 2015, but thank you for the broken link report, I just fixed it. Also, thanks for your feedback (which I agree with!) but we currently have no plans to update it.

nickagliano 2y ago

Most fun game on HN since Infinite Craft. Worked well on iOS Safari. Installed as PWA and everything. Managed to keep my attention for 5 levels. Nice work.

atleastoptimal 2y ago

Very polished and smooth but it feels a bit shallow. So far I imagine the gameplay is limited to moving forward and strafing through progressively longer dungeons. There is a charm to the first-person element and limiting movement to a grid, but the controls feel slow and are frustrating relative to FPS movement or a top-down action RPG Diablo style layout/controls. It was annoying waiting for each animation to finish between alternatively walking/turning/strafing.

hpeter 2y ago

when the screen is smaller than 930px width, its all black for me

verse 2y ago

I loved this game! I played until level 13 and unlocked and bought every weapon

StarlaAtNight 2y ago

I love that Google+ is included in the "share this to social" functionality. Very retro

epolanski 2y ago

Slightly OT. Why did browser gaming ended up having such low variety and no "hits" for so long?

modeless 2y ago
No in-app purchase for monetization. IAP whales drive the whole mobile game ecosystem.
- sublinear 2y ago
  From a business perspective I don't really agree. The market for other types of players is there and it's far from niche. It's more like making games for them isn't as lucrative. Still pays well for sure, but you can make the same or better working in a corporate office like everyone else. Ironically, office drones are probably the ones who most want to make and play these games.
badsectoracula 2y ago
Flash games and to a lesser extent Java applet games used to be very hot. Back in 2005 or so i paid rent with a game i made in literally an afternoon in Java. However the largely "casual" market who played these games switched to mobile phones and any remaining "hardcore" players switched to Steam, which in meantime opened up to developers. And from a technical side, it took years for web tech to reach what you could do with Flash when the latter was forcibly killed.

datascienced 2y ago

You can die and respawn on level 5 kill all the monsters and be left keyless and stuck.

jmward01 2y ago

That was fun. Thanks for making it!

publicpayable 2y ago

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lwansbrough 2y ago
You're going to have to do better than this.

razodactyl 2y ago

It's broken on iOS. It asks to turn to landscape but the screen doesn't expand.

jverrecchia 2y ago

Worth noting that this is not a new game, it came out in 2015.

lenerdenator 2y ago
Yeah, noticed the Google+ link in the menu and was like "oh, we're getting into some history here".

manny_408__ 2y ago

Super cool

keepamovin 2y ago

This is super fun! I'm no expert in games like this but I think everything is perfect. I wouldn't change anything. It all feels really intuitive fun and it's clear you've put a lot of thought into it. I'd say the experience is already optimized :) Can you tell a little bit about the creation process? Is it a team? What did you user to build this and create the textures and and characters?

vivzkestrel 2y ago

let me use the mouse and turn, the 90 degree movement is getting me killed after level 5

trothamel 2y ago

I'm not as huge fan of the controls. I have five fingers on my left hand, and there are six buttons there, so I'm constantly moving them around, while my right hand doesn't do much. Maybe figure out a way to use both hands?

dylan604 2y ago
aren't these pretty stock keys for game play? i'm not a heavy gamer by any stretch of the imagination, but these controls are very familiar to me from the few games i have played
kipple 2y ago
+1, arrow keys for turning pls
- mkl 2y ago
  They already do that.
SpaceElephant 2y ago
The controls are indeed clunky, but also the reason why this game became an instant hit with my six year old! Simple to explain, simple to operate!
squigz 2y ago
I don't think you're ever expected to hit all 6 keys at once?

sidcool 2y ago

This is an old game, I finished it multiple times long back.

sgt 2y ago

Whenever a WebGL game is released, there's tons of browser issues across many different types of devices. It seemed to work for me (iOS) but just read the comments. It would really make me think twice about developing a web game.

modeless 2y ago
PC games have as many if not more issues than web games even when running on only one platform (Windows). Every major PC release has tons of issues.
- pjmlp 2y ago
  The big difference is that on PC, there are ways to work around, with the browser one is usually stuck, and that is if the system isn't blacklisted to start with.

midzer 2y ago

Great game, really fun to play!

pjmlp 2y ago

Usually WebGL games aren't that great, this one however, is a great exception, and an enjoyment to play. Great work.

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hgyjnbdet 2y ago

This excellent. My 6 year old is loving it on his tablet. Compared to the crap you get in the app stores this is amazing. No ads every time you touch the screen, decent graphics, progress without being forced to watch ads or pay. Kudos.

guigui 2y ago

Author here, not sure why this is posted today as this project is from 2015, but feel free check out our latest WebGL project if you liked Keep Out: https://equinox.space https://equinox.space EDIT: thanks for all the great feedback!

febed 2y ago
I loved equinox, are there plans for more levels? btw, I couldn’t play Keep Out on iPad. I guess it assumes that a keyboard is available
- guigui 2y ago
  Thanks, there are no such plans at the moment. Yes, we relied on UA-based mobile detection which worked back then but a few years ago Apple stopped treating iPadOS as mobile, and we never patched this.
maxlin 2y ago
Saw the dungeon one back then, but played it "through" now (level 12, supposed it doesn't end). Also played thru equinox. Nice. Tight packages both!
- guigui 2y ago
  It does end at level 15. Congrats on finishing Equinox!
KingOfCoders 2y ago
If this is from 2015, any plans to open source?
- guigui 2y ago
  Not at the moment, but thanks for your interest.
Intox 2y ago
Really cool experience, sharing it around! Would you care to share the game's music somewhere? Really hits me, i'd like to put theses in my playlists

timeon 2y ago

Nice game! Smooth even on slow connection. Maybe bit too easy. I was used to games that killed me at the beginning on a first try.

kuon 2y ago

Please, let me change my key bindings. I always use S to move forward and W to move backward. But otherwise it is super cool.

IvanK_net 2y ago

It reminds me my WebGL First-Person-Shooter https://dinohunt2.ivank.net https://dinohunt2.ivank.net that I made 10 years ago :)

developer1000 2y ago

love it. the sound work great!