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> What I see now in certain Rust communities feels a lot like what I saw in Golang communities in the early days. I had similar experiences when React was the n

> What I see now in certain Rust communities feels a lot like what I saw in Golang communities in the early days. I had similar experiences when React was the new kid on the block, too. Go was released in 2012, Rust in 2015. Are you saying we are still in the early days of Rust?

shrimp_emoji 3y ago
Yes. C was invented in the '70s and only got standardized 20 years later. And Rust's ~20 years is young in systems lang terms (the alternatives, C and C++, are 50 and 40 years old). And nobody had TikTok back then.
- sk11001 3y ago
  You’re moving the goalposts though, the question was about Go. Which 3 years ago was nothing like Rust today. Because it’s much more pragmatic “here’s the trade-offs we had to make and why” language. Growing in and out of a cult isn’t a natural part of a language’s evolution like the GP comment suggested.
  - carbotaniuman 3y ago
    This is definitely untrue. I was bullied out of the golang community for asking about generics when I first started learning it. Obviously, I don't think my experience is indicative of the entire community, but the experience from the community left a bad taste in my mouth.
- Rican7 3y ago
  > And Rust's ~20 years huh? It's only been about 9
  - layer8 3y ago
    It was started in 2006 and sponsored by Mozilla from 2009 on.
Aurornis 3y ago
> Go was released in 2012, Rust in 2015. Are you saying we are still in the early days of Rust? Release dates mean very little. Golang had rapid adoption early on. Rust only recently became one of the fastest growing languages. Golang stabilized a lot of things about the language and library early on. Rust still has a lot of common features gated behind nightly. There is a fun tool for comparing the number of PRs on Github by language that shows the difference: https://madnight.github.io/githut/#/pull_requests/2024/1 https://madnight.github.io/githut/#/pull_requests/2024/1 So yes, I think we're in the early days of Rust.
evilduck 3y ago
Ruby was released in 1995 and didn't really have its heyday of developer hype until Rails came along a decade later. Python didn't start gaining serious traction for about a decade after its 0.9.0 release either. Go's immediate uptake seems like an outlier in programming language lifecycles.

shrimp_emoji 3y ago

Yes. C was invented in the '70s and only got standardized 20 years later. And Rust's ~20 years is young in systems lang terms (the alternatives, C and C++, are 50 and 40 years old). And nobody had TikTok back then.

sk11001 3y ago
You’re moving the goalposts though, the question was about Go. Which 3 years ago was nothing like Rust today. Because it’s much more pragmatic “here’s the trade-offs we had to make and why” language. Growing in and out of a cult isn’t a natural part of a language’s evolution like the GP comment suggested.
- carbotaniuman 3y ago
  This is definitely untrue. I was bullied out of the golang community for asking about generics when I first started learning it. Obviously, I don't think my experience is indicative of the entire community, but the experience from the community left a bad taste in my mouth.
Rican7 3y ago
> And Rust's ~20 years huh? It's only been about 9
- layer8 3y ago
  It was started in 2006 and sponsored by Mozilla from 2009 on.

Aurornis 3y ago

> Go was released in 2012, Rust in 2015. Are you saying we are still in the early days of Rust? Release dates mean very little. Golang had rapid adoption early on. Rust only recently became one of the fastest growing languages. Golang stabilized a lot of things about the language and library early on. Rust still has a lot of common features gated behind nightly. There is a fun tool for comparing the number of PRs on Github by language that shows the difference: https://madnight.github.io/githut/#/pull_requests/2024/1 https://madnight.github.io/githut/#/pull_requests/2024/1 So yes, I think we're in the early days of Rust.

evilduck 3y ago

Ruby was released in 1995 and didn't really have its heyday of developer hype until Rails came along a decade later. Python didn't start gaining serious traction for about a decade after its 0.9.0 release either. Go's immediate uptake seems like an outlier in programming language lifecycles.