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> you’ll be able to ~100% trust is what happens in front of your eyes 5-10 years from now we may have vision pro gen 5, or whatever system achieves market domi

> you’ll be able to ~100% trust is what happens in front of your eyes 5-10 years from now we may have vision pro gen 5, or whatever system achieves market dominance, between our eyes and what happens in front of us.

ben_w 3y ago
Even without that, we have at least one crowd funded YouTuber growing mammalian cells in vats with the explicit intention of making a "meat robot". https://youtu.be/Z_ZGq8Tah0k?si=GuV1QC50jiv7yHP7 https://youtu.be/Z_ZGq8Tah0k?si=GuV1QC50jiv7yHP7 There's not a huge gap between that and a Westworld style infiltration-by-printed-robot.
- justapassenger 3y ago
  The gap is as huge as between ancient Greeks discovering planets and us having colony on Mars.
  - ben_w 3y ago
    You think that the gap between "a meat robot" and "a meat robot of a specific shape" is that big? (If you're thinking of the robots' brains in the TV show, sure, that's a totally different challenge; but you don't need them for a replacement-takeover scenario, there's a lot of other ways to do that).
daelon 3y ago
I won't.
giantg2 3y ago
AR has better real world capabilities and use cases than VR. AR is what you use to enhance reality or make it easier. VR is where you go when you want fiction. Aside from entertainment, I don't understand this VR push when AR is arguably better for many of the non-entertainment uses
- dudefeliciano 3y ago
  Wouldn't AR be as susceptible to a sort "real world" injection attacks as well? Vision Pro uses cameras to record the outside world and display it back to the user, it should be relatively easy to add/remove objects in the rendered feed.
  - giantg2 3y ago
    Vision Pro is VR. It's just using the surrounding environment to build the virtual one. Something like HoloLens is true AR.
    - fennecbutt 2y ago
      And here I thought it wasn't any of those but "spatial computing". Apple told us so it must be true.
noAnswer 3y ago
That is a plot point of Ghost in the Shell's Laughing Man. People where unable to see the face of the hacker. Instead they saw a smiley.
- Der_Einzige 3y ago
  Ghost in the shell anticipated so much. The premise of the first movie is that a model gains sentience (creates its ghost out of thin air), claims asylum, and the model merges itself with the ghost within the major. Everything in that series depicted is stuff that either exists today or will exist within 30 years. Everything.

ben_w 3y ago

Even without that, we have at least one crowd funded YouTuber growing mammalian cells in vats with the explicit intention of making a "meat robot". https://youtu.be/Z_ZGq8Tah0k?si=GuV1QC50jiv7yHP7 https://youtu.be/Z_ZGq8Tah0k?si=GuV1QC50jiv7yHP7 There's not a huge gap between that and a Westworld style infiltration-by-printed-robot.

justapassenger 3y ago
The gap is as huge as between ancient Greeks discovering planets and us having colony on Mars.
- ben_w 3y ago
  You think that the gap between "a meat robot" and "a meat robot of a specific shape" is that big? (If you're thinking of the robots' brains in the TV show, sure, that's a totally different challenge; but you don't need them for a replacement-takeover scenario, there's a lot of other ways to do that).

daelon 3y ago

I won't.

giantg2 3y ago

AR has better real world capabilities and use cases than VR. AR is what you use to enhance reality or make it easier. VR is where you go when you want fiction. Aside from entertainment, I don't understand this VR push when AR is arguably better for many of the non-entertainment uses

dudefeliciano 3y ago
Wouldn't AR be as susceptible to a sort "real world" injection attacks as well? Vision Pro uses cameras to record the outside world and display it back to the user, it should be relatively easy to add/remove objects in the rendered feed.
- giantg2 3y ago
  Vision Pro is VR. It's just using the surrounding environment to build the virtual one. Something like HoloLens is true AR.
  - fennecbutt 2y ago
    And here I thought it wasn't any of those but "spatial computing". Apple told us so it must be true.

noAnswer 3y ago

That is a plot point of Ghost in the Shell's Laughing Man. People where unable to see the face of the hacker. Instead they saw a smiley.

Der_Einzige 3y ago
Ghost in the shell anticipated so much. The premise of the first movie is that a model gains sentience (creates its ghost out of thin air), claims asylum, and the model merges itself with the ghost within the major. Everything in that series depicted is stuff that either exists today or will exist within 30 years. Everything.