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How does a society function, with lookalike tools like this around? How would we prepare for it?

courseofaction 2y ago
Establish and constantly vett networks of trust? Only the source can be trusted now.
squigz 2y ago
The problem is it's nearly too late to "prepare" for it - the time for that was years ago Instead, we've spent that time doing things that are only going to exacerbate the issues - like doubling down on voice as an ID More importantly, trust in both public and private institutions and even between citizens has slowly eroded - understandably so, if you ask me, but still - which as another commenter has pointed out is going to be even more important going forward. I imagine rebuilding that trust is going to be even more painful with stuff like this. (The only other alternative I can think of is along the lines of cryptographically-signed content from end-to-end, government ID to access the Internet, etc. This would be highly detrimental to a free society, so I hope we don't go this route)
- joshstrange 2y ago
  The movie Sneakers sure would get a lot less interesting with voice cloning. And I’d miss out of one of my favorite/most funny scenes in the movie “I would really like to hear you say the word ‘Passport’” [0]. I cannot hear the word “Passport” without thinking of that scene and then I always have to say “My voice is my passport, verify me” in my head to complete the circle. [0] https://youtu.be/WdcIqFOc2UE?si=tP2HxVEskl9szuKO https://youtu.be/WdcIqFOc2UE?si=tP2HxVEskl9szuKO
throwthrowuknow 2y ago
Don’t take any wooden nickels
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oefrha 2y ago
Tons of people have already been defrauded on the phone with cloned voices of their family members in recent years. There are a million convincing Trump speeches on YouTube, complete with video, that he never delivered. It’s not something to prepare for, it’s already here.
j-bos 2y ago
I can imagine much as it did in olden days, networks of person to person trust. But with the added possibility of using public private key pairs for verification.

Establish and constantly vett networks of trust? Only the source can be trusted now.

The problem is it's nearly too late to "prepare" for it - the time for that was years ago Instead, we've spent that time doing things that are only going to exacerbate the issues - like doubling down on voice as an ID More importantly, trust in both public and private institutions and even between citizens has slowly eroded - understandably so, if you ask me, but still - which as another commenter has pointed out is going to be even more important going forward. I imagine rebuilding that trust is going to be even more painful with stuff like this. (The only other alternative I can think of is along the lines of cryptographically-signed content from end-to-end, government ID to access the Internet, etc. This would be highly detrimental to a free society, so I hope we don't go this route)

joshstrange 2y ago
The movie Sneakers sure would get a lot less interesting with voice cloning. And I’d miss out of one of my favorite/most funny scenes in the movie “I would really like to hear you say the word ‘Passport’” [0]. I cannot hear the word “Passport” without thinking of that scene and then I always have to say “My voice is my passport, verify me” in my head to complete the circle. [0] https://youtu.be/WdcIqFOc2UE?si=tP2HxVEskl9szuKO https://youtu.be/WdcIqFOc2UE?si=tP2HxVEskl9szuKO

throwthrowuknow 2y ago

Don’t take any wooden nickels

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oefrha 2y ago

Tons of people have already been defrauded on the phone with cloned voices of their family members in recent years. There are a million convincing Trump speeches on YouTube, complete with video, that he never delivered. It’s not something to prepare for, it’s already here.

j-bos 2y ago

I can imagine much as it did in olden days, networks of person to person trust. But with the added possibility of using public private key pairs for verification.