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The bill doesn’t block access to TikTok, it blocks US companies from doing business with TikTok. So it isn’t exactly a ban, or censorship. If TikTok wants to g

by jibe 2y ago

The bill doesn’t block access to TikTok, it blocks US companies from doing business with TikTok. So it isn’t exactly a ban, or censorship. If TikTok wants to give up the revenue, they can continue to send propaganda to the US, and kids can continue to watch and make videos. China blocks access to Google. Whatever you want to call what the TikTok bill does, it is not the same as what China does.

whatshisface 2y ago
Telling a business it's free to do something if there's no profit involved is like telling a man he's free to drink whiskey if he can jump over the moon.
- mgiampapa 2y ago
  Here comes Elon with another hold my beer moment. Thank god he already wasted billions on Twitter.
  - Slava_Propanei 2y ago
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ganeshkrishnan 2y ago
This bill will force google/apple to remove the tiktok app store listing. It's as good as dead after that with no updates/new installs. give a dog a bad name and it's as good as dead.
- fennecbutt 2y ago
  Nah, people are too addicted. They'll follow steps to install an apk, even if they're nontechnical. I bet you that would become a thing at school, getting the geekier kids to "install tiktok 4 me pls"
  - School-Cotton 2y ago
    You underestimate how many people in the U.S. have iPhones.
chipdart 2y ago
> China blocks access to Google. Whatever you want to call what the TikTok bill does, it is not the same as what China does. China does way more than that. China forces all companies that wish to do business in China to host their data in China in a way that ensures the CCP has complete access to it. It boggles the mind how some anonymous accounts try to attack the US for interfering with a Chinese company doing business in the US, particularly one which is a notorious security hole, but leave out the fact that CCP's China goes well beyond as a matter of policy.
- not1ofU 2y ago
  it boggles the mind that everyone is complaining about tiktok and yet, each of the big cloud providers have data centers in china, hey but dont worry guys, they're physically separated honest
  - trimethylpurine 2y ago
    If you start a business in the US and you're only adding China DC's specifically for Chinese customers, I don't see why you'd invest more time and money in connecting the CCP to your US DC's. It would make more sense that Chinese customers would want to host their data in the US not vice versa, and in that case you would treat them the same as American customers in American data centers with the same security in place. It's the cheaper solution, caters to all customer needs, and doesn't risk your customers' faith. I can't think of any reason why they wouldn't separate them. Do you have some reason to believe they aren't or are you just guessing that they wouldn't take precautions? Because in this case, the precautions are actually the easier topology to build, I think.
- Georgelemental 2y ago
  It boggles my mind how people look at China's censorship regime and think, "wow we are so far behind in the censorship race, we must move in that direction and start banning things ASAP"
  - solumunus 2y ago
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by jibe 2y ago

whatshisface 2y ago

Telling a business it's free to do something if there's no profit involved is like telling a man he's free to drink whiskey if he can jump over the moon.

mgiampapa 2y ago
Here comes Elon with another hold my beer moment. Thank god he already wasted billions on Twitter.
- Slava_Propanei 2y ago
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ganeshkrishnan 2y ago

This bill will force google/apple to remove the tiktok app store listing. It's as good as dead after that with no updates/new installs. give a dog a bad name and it's as good as dead.

fennecbutt 2y ago
Nah, people are too addicted. They'll follow steps to install an apk, even if they're nontechnical. I bet you that would become a thing at school, getting the geekier kids to "install tiktok 4 me pls"
- School-Cotton 2y ago
  You underestimate how many people in the U.S. have iPhones.

chipdart 2y ago

> China blocks access to Google. Whatever you want to call what the TikTok bill does, it is not the same as what China does. China does way more than that. China forces all companies that wish to do business in China to host their data in China in a way that ensures the CCP has complete access to it. It boggles the mind how some anonymous accounts try to attack the US for interfering with a Chinese company doing business in the US, particularly one which is a notorious security hole, but leave out the fact that CCP's China goes well beyond as a matter of policy.

not1ofU 2y ago
it boggles the mind that everyone is complaining about tiktok and yet, each of the big cloud providers have data centers in china, hey but dont worry guys, they're physically separated honest
- trimethylpurine 2y ago
  If you start a business in the US and you're only adding China DC's specifically for Chinese customers, I don't see why you'd invest more time and money in connecting the CCP to your US DC's. It would make more sense that Chinese customers would want to host their data in the US not vice versa, and in that case you would treat them the same as American customers in American data centers with the same security in place. It's the cheaper solution, caters to all customer needs, and doesn't risk your customers' faith. I can't think of any reason why they wouldn't separate them. Do you have some reason to believe they aren't or are you just guessing that they wouldn't take precautions? Because in this case, the precautions are actually the easier topology to build, I think.
Georgelemental 2y ago
It boggles my mind how people look at China's censorship regime and think, "wow we are so far behind in the censorship race, we must move in that direction and start banning things ASAP"
- solumunus 2y ago

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