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Windows 11 now comes with its own adware
- datagrimx 2y agoI use Windows for one thing now. To play a single game that is not available on Linux or the Mac. I don't know how much longer I will be playing that game.
- capitainenemo 2y agoWhich game? Have you checked Proton (or Wine) compatibility?
- heyoni 2y agoHas to be a competitive fps. I’m in the same camp, I boot into windows for call of duty.
- capitainenemo 2y agoI mean... call of duty is a hell of a lot of games, so no idea which one you play. Most of them are pretty old so modern hardware should easily handle it. I don't care for first-person shooters so no idea what the actual situation is there (competitive fps is ambiguous - you could mean competitive first person shooters tend to have anti-cheat that requires windows, or that you feel that frames per second is not competitive on linux). I do know that proton seems to perform very well for me in other games on the linux living room gaming system and the steam deck (Xorg for both). Valve claims in general outperforms windows for similar hardware. But I suppose it could depend on your graphics card and drivers.
- datagrimx 2y agoPUBG. No Proton/Wine support.
- capitainenemo 2y agoAh. Gotcha. Yeah, odds are high it's got some anti-cheat/anti-copy with deep hooks into the windows kernel. Not uncommon with FPS. That makes emulation tricky.
- mococa 2y agoThat’s why I migrated my gaming machine to Pop_OS!
- jcmontx 2y agoIs it actually any good for gaming?
- mococa 2y agoPretty good. There is only one exception, RDR2, there is a mission where it was crashing for me. Switching to proton experimental solved the issue and I am about to finish it (again, love this game)
- Alupis 2y agoGaming on Linux is actually pretty great these days - thanks in no small part to Valve and their momentous efforts in the space, proton included. If you run into an issue, it's almost always the Anti-Cheat software to blame. There are many games that run very well in single player modes, but then force-quit if you try to join multiplayer (as-in the anti-cheat kicks you or deliberately crashes the game). I'm not aware of any work-arounds that are reliable for this - and you risk a ban in trying so. They detect you're not on Windows and refuse to work. Games that don't use aggressive Anti-Cheat work fine, even in multiplayer. There's a huge catalog of games that work natively these days, and proton takes care of just about everything else. Steam mostly "just works" with all games. There's Lutris, Bottles and more for everything else.
- gkhartman 2y agoI've been playing Baldurs Gate, and Guidwars 2 without issue. I originally started out on endeavorOS which lasted a while, but eventually needed the stability of PopOS since I have dev work on the same machine. Pop has a version that ships with Nvidia proprietary drivers which made things easier (RTX 4080). Only thing missing for me is HDR support. I'm very happy to give that up to avoid Windows.
- Alupis 2y ago
- userbinator 2y ago"now"? It was adware, along with Windows 10, the moment they were released. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27337382 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27337382 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28449607 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28449607 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37321002 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37321002
- wrs 2y agoWow, they finally did it. I remember “third party ads in the Start menu” was brought up inside MSFT back in the early 2000s, in a mostly joking fashion. I guess it was inevitable.
- tracker1 2y agoThere were actual internet ads in Insiders builds a couple years ago... that is when I switched.
- MBCook 2y agoDidn’t that accidentally get turned on for some insiders? I seem to remember articles about that.
- tracker1 2y agoYeah... I was one that definitely saw then. Pissed me off anyone even considered, let alone implemented such a thing. I've only booted into my Windows drive twice since.. and now it's been so long that I'll have to reinstall to use it since it's too far out of date now. I've been perfectly content with Linux.
- marcodiego 2y agoNow?
- slily 2y agoI'm no fan of the direction Windows has been going since 7, but this is exactly like the default behavior of KDE Plasma (at least on OpenSUSE).
- slily 2y agoI guess HN is just a more pretentious version of Reddit now? Share simple facts and people downvote/flag you for not being sufficiently outraged about the subject?
- zeta0134 2y agoThis would be a more charitable argument if Discover was in the habit of promoting proprietary software for sale. Perhaps that's true on OpenSUSE specifically? On KDE Plasma on my system, the search lens only seems to suggest things in the local repositories, which are all free software. It's also trivially easy to configure which lenses are enabled, and as a bonus has a local file search that actually works (and quickly at that)
- maximus-decimus 2y agoI'm on Kubuntu and don't have ads in my menu bar.
- margorczynski 2y agoThankfully I've moved away from Windows completely. Unfortunately I still need to use it at work and using it for development is a pain compared to Linux. Today's Linux is not the same clunky mess it was 15 or even 10 years ago. If you don't run any strange hardware or don't require Windows-only applications (that Wine/Proton don't handle) then the experience is great.
- jsheard 2y agoThe main blocker for me is still the Nvidia drivers, with Xorg itself having deal-breaker limitations that are never going to get fixed and Wayland on NV still not being quite there yet. Yeah it would be smoother sailing with an AMD card but that's a pretty big caveat when Nvidia has 78% of the market per the Steam survey.
- 20after4 2y agoI've been running a RTX 3060 on Debian 12 under Gnome+Wayland for quite some time now (Nearly a year I think!). It's stable enough that I rarely notice anything to complain about. Sleep and resume works, though resume is quite slow. I can play just about any game on Steam including most Windows-only titles, not to mention GPU Compute workloads. It hasn't always been smooth sailing on Linux but I haven't experienced any significant problems with this platform: - Asus Motherboard - Intel 13700k (not significantly overclocked) - 128GB DDR4 - nVidia 3060 12GB
- jsheard 2y agoMost of the issues I've run into are related to multiple monitors, on both Xorg and Wayland. Xorg can't do mismatched refresh rates, or VRR at all with multiple monitors, or HDR at all. The last time I tried Wayland (with KDE) it ended up in a bizarre state where my mouse clicks were going to a different point on the screen than where the cursor was, which was fixed if I disabled one monitor but I couldn't figure out how to get both working at once. As a 4K monitor user I also need 150% DPI scaling to work properly and from what I gather fractional scaling is still very rough on Linux. Hopefully one day, I'm not happy about the direction Windows is going either. But all of the above Just Works on Windows.
- moelf 2y agoEarlier today: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40142667 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40142667
- aeroghi 2y agoI've replaced my start menu with Open-Shell which is quite customisable... and doesn't need settings changed on a regular basis to opt-out of advertising!
- rkagerer 2y agoSweet, I don't need to rely on third party viruses and scammers anymore to unlock that feature!
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- gkhartman 2y agoI'm fine with paid software licenses, but ads and telemetry embedded in a product with a payed license is a hard pass from me.
- ChrisArchitect 2y ago[dupe] More discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40142667 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40142667
- neglesaks 2y agoMicrosoft is emulating the Meta business model now: The customers are the product....
- sierra1011 2y agoKey difference being that Meta products are free for consumers, while Windows licensing is very much not free. Microsoft are just attempting a classic double-dip; pay for Windows and also get the ads endemic to digital life! What's not to love...