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Linking urbanism to hitler was a strange point of discussion.

pembrook 2y ago
Only strange if you’re not familiar with history. Direct from Wikipedia: “Lebensraum (Living space) was the leading motivation of Nazi Germany to initiate World War II”
- panick21_ 2y ago
  You are completely misrepresenting history! The Germans wanted 'Lebensraum' because they didn't want to import food and resources from others. They didn't want to relay on anybody else. They wanted the German race to dominate those resource areas. They wanted to compete in the great power game with US, Britain and the Soviets. You act like they saw the apartment buildings in Berlin, decided that was 'to dense' and therefore they started WW2. That is simply not accurate. Their aim was not to reduce density, but rather massively increase the population of the German race. Their policy was literally pro population growth. Their 'Lebensraum' was not for currently existing Germans, because German was to dense. The 'Lebensraum' was for future generations of German Supermen that they would literally breed. I am serious by the way that this is an utterly disgusting way to argue. You should seriously be ashamed of yourself. I know that housing policy makes people insane, but you responding with 'Hitler genocide is because of urbanization' is the lowest level of argument I have come across.
  - pembrook 2y ago
    Twist my words however you like if it makes you feel better, but we’re both describing the same thing. Anyways, being confronted with contrarian ideas on the supremacy of European urbanism is clearly triggering for you (proving the point I made earlier). So much so that you feel the need to resort to ad-hominem personal attacks! I won’t be responding anymore, but I recommend examining why you’re revisiting a thread days later to call a random stranger on the internet “utterly disgusting” for challenging your feelings on this topic.
    - panick21_ 2y ago
      What 'triggering' me is that you are using 'this causes genocide' in a complicity spurious way. > for challenging your feelings on this topic. Don't flatter yourself, you aren't 'challenging' anything. There are plenty of arguments you can make about Urbanism and I have heard plenty of of them. Reasonable people can differ and I'm fine with that. > I recommend examining why Because you are using the suffering, death and rape of millions to justify your position. > days later Yeah whole 'days'. I mean its like you wrote this in the 1960s.

Only strange if you’re not familiar with history. Direct from Wikipedia: “Lebensraum (Living space) was the leading motivation of Nazi Germany to initiate World War II”

panick21_ 2y ago
You are completely misrepresenting history! The Germans wanted 'Lebensraum' because they didn't want to import food and resources from others. They didn't want to relay on anybody else. They wanted the German race to dominate those resource areas. They wanted to compete in the great power game with US, Britain and the Soviets. You act like they saw the apartment buildings in Berlin, decided that was 'to dense' and therefore they started WW2. That is simply not accurate. Their aim was not to reduce density, but rather massively increase the population of the German race. Their policy was literally pro population growth. Their 'Lebensraum' was not for currently existing Germans, because German was to dense. The 'Lebensraum' was for future generations of German Supermen that they would literally breed. I am serious by the way that this is an utterly disgusting way to argue. You should seriously be ashamed of yourself. I know that housing policy makes people insane, but you responding with 'Hitler genocide is because of urbanization' is the lowest level of argument I have come across.
- pembrook 2y ago
  Twist my words however you like if it makes you feel better, but we’re both describing the same thing. Anyways, being confronted with contrarian ideas on the supremacy of European urbanism is clearly triggering for you (proving the point I made earlier). So much so that you feel the need to resort to ad-hominem personal attacks! I won’t be responding anymore, but I recommend examining why you’re revisiting a thread days later to call a random stranger on the internet “utterly disgusting” for challenging your feelings on this topic.
  - panick21_ 2y ago
    What 'triggering' me is that you are using 'this causes genocide' in a complicity spurious way. > for challenging your feelings on this topic. Don't flatter yourself, you aren't 'challenging' anything. There are plenty of arguments you can make about Urbanism and I have heard plenty of of them. Reasonable people can differ and I'm fine with that. > I recommend examining why Because you are using the suffering, death and rape of millions to justify your position. > days later Yeah whole 'days'. I mean its like you wrote this in the 1960s.